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In reply to the discussion: Why on earth are we demonizing the Betsy Ross Flag? [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)165. The Betsy Ross flag was created in 1777 during the American Revolution.
Therefore slavery was legal before the revolution in the British ruled colonies. It would make more sense to boycott the British Union Jack for the fact slavery existed at the time of our revolution.
Slavery in the United States
A brief history
When Europeans first colonized the North American continent, the land was vast, the work was harsh, and there was a severe shortage of labor. White bond servants, paying their passage across the ocean from Europe through indentured labor, eased but did not solve the problem. Tensions between settlers and former indentured servants increased the pressure to find a new labor source. Early in the seventeenth century, a Dutch ship loaded with African slaves introduced a solutionand yet paradoxically a new problemto the New World. Slaves proved to be economical on large farms where labor-intensive cash crops, such as tobacco, sugar and rice, could be grown.
By the end of the American Revolution, slavery became largely unprofitable in the North and was slowly dying out. Even in the South the institution was becoming less useful to farmers as tobacco prices fluctuated and began to drop. Due to the decline of the tobacco market in the 1760s and 1770s many farmers switched from producing tobacco to wheat, which required less labor leading to surplus of slaves. However, in 1793 northerner Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin; this device made it possible for textile mills to use the type of cotton most easily grown in the lower South. The invention of the cotton gin brought about a robust internal slave trade. As the lower South became more established in cotton production the region required more slave labor, which they received from upper South slaveowners looking to offload their surplus of slaves. In 1808, the United States banned the international slave trade (the importation of slaves), which only increased the demand for domestically traded slaves. In the upper South the most profitable cash crop was not was not an agricultural product but the sale of human lives. Although some southerners owned no slaves at all, by 1860 the Souths peculiar institution was inextricably tied to the regions economy and society.
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/slavery-united-states?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5uv-t_Wc4wIVdP_jBx2FSwkyEAAYASAAEgLsrPD_BwE
The Brits outlawed slavery in most colonies in1833.
Slavery Abolition Act
UNITED KINGDOM [1834]
WRITTEN BY: Natasha L. Henry
Slavery Abolition Act, (1833), in British history, act of Parliament that abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans in the Caribbean and South Africa as well as a small number in Canada. It received Royal Assent on August 28, 1833, and took effect on August 1, 1834.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Slavery-Abolition-Act
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It's an ancient symbol ... there in theory could be people who 'liked it before' ...
mr_lebowski
Jul 2019
#27
I was simply clarifying one poster's 'meaning' to another poster ... who'd said 'huh?' (nt)
mr_lebowski
Jul 2019
#78
I read that swastikas are still used as symbols for various religions, dating to ancient times.
Honeycombe8
Jul 2019
#81
The town where I live has a few brick row houses built in 1920 that have them around the top
fishwax
Jul 2019
#178
There's only one thing bad about him not making his pay from football
customerserviceguy
Jul 2019
#146
The same can be said of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution....
Honeycombe8
Jul 2019
#74
There's a difference between flying it alongside other flags as part of a historical panoply
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#25
Since I'm not trying to make any rules or speak for you, we're on the same page
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#79
Anything pertaining to the beginning of our country would be offensive to you.
Honeycombe8
Jul 2019
#83
I would imagine the genocide of millions of original inhabitants already living here was something
Judi Lynn
Jul 2019
#186
Because the current "In" thing for Dems to do is shun and hide anything that offends anyone
Jake Stern
Jul 2019
#21
As one of those "anyones" who's offended, I'm glad that my party is sensitive to my concerns
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#29
If you wish to be offended by clowns, flags, hand gestures or Adam Sandler that's your right
Jake Stern
Jul 2019
#40
Anyone who would vote for Trump because Nike decided not to put the Betsy Ross flag on its shoes
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#161
Finding ways to try to manipulate Democrats by telling them the right might mock them
Judi Lynn
Jul 2019
#188
Agree. We should be demonizing the supremacists, not the symbol (flag) they appropriated...but
Freethinker65
Jul 2019
#38
I get your point. And respect it. But some dumb assed frog drawn a few years ago,
GulfCoast66
Jul 2019
#42
I've had one of these flags since 1976, and am displaying it right now...
First Speaker
Jul 2019
#41
African American slaves also fought under the Confederate flag. So what.
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#109
No one is trying to reelect Trump. Good people are trying to remove the racist toxicity from our
jcmaine72
Jul 2019
#67
The minute Kaepernick said something..not before was there an "outrage".
AncientGeezer
Jul 2019
#157
so, the bottom line is, if white racist bastards decided to make a cute cat their symbol we will
yaesu
Jul 2019
#70
The only people indignant here are the ones who suddenly fell in love with the Betsy Ross flag today
EffieBlack
Jul 2019
#120
But Democrats weren't behind Nike's decision to not put the flag on the shoes. That was a business
EffieBlack
Jul 2019
#130
Who has asked you to give up the right to buy sneakers with the Betsy Ross flag on them?
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#93
That's exactly why hate groups use symbols that mean something harmless to everyone else
IronLionZion
Jul 2019
#89
Most people, black, white, or whatever probably aren't aware of how it's been used
Major Nikon
Jul 2019
#164
Democrats should stay out of whether Nike should put the Betsy Ross decal on its sneakers?
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#114
Yes, there there was slavery, segragation and much other crap that shouln't have been, but how long
demosincebirth
Jul 2019
#119
The move make Nike look like idiots and Kaepernick couldn't even bother to vote last time. I respect
RelativelyJones
Jul 2019
#177
What's the point of trying to mock Kaepernick by trying to drag out his voting performance?
Judi Lynn
Jul 2019
#190
I would prefer not form my life around not offending the sadistic, degenerate fascists among us.
Judi Lynn
Jul 2019
#187