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14. The census

Reply to Oregon1947 (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 26, 2019, 08:52 AM

Jul 2019

So, to make that more precise, most Hispanic persons in the US are white. And 2nd generation white Hispanics do not vote noticeably differently from non-Hispanic whites.

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I need you to breathe a fact in, savor it, and really accept it [View all] Recursion Jul 2019 OP

+ 10000. And they are proud of it. Hoyt Jul 2019 #1

Benefits enid602 Jul 2019 #114

They don't care. They have so much self loathing they don't think they even deserve it. BamaRefugee Jul 2019 #119

Not at all. They think they deserve such things, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #124

They are the definition od sadists. BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #125

I became aware of this right after the 2016 election Bettie Jul 2019 #2

Trump enables a lot of them. bearsfootball516 Jul 2019 #60

But we can't forget what they have shown us Bettie Jul 2019 #62

Oh, I don't know. llmart Jul 2019 #81

The horrific truth is that malaise Jul 2019 #3

These *things* - I can't call them beings - are lizard entities. If that. Texin Jul 2019 #51

Excellent, well-worded post. NBachers Jul 2019 #107

Oh they are human alright malaise Jul 2019 #129

In the 19th cent. we turned to education to enlighten the public.... DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #52

I never had any illusions about the capacity of humans to vent hatred on others. BSdetect Jul 2019 #4

Perfectly stated, Recursion. I have had the same thoughts. You put them into words. Glorfindel Jul 2019 #5

It's both Recursion, watoos Jul 2019 #6

They haven't been fooled. They know exactly what they're doing StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #11

THIS. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #12

Well-said. volstork Jul 2019 #28

I dunno ... I think you are giving them too much credit ... they don't have an ability to reason KPN Jul 2019 #55

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that keeping black and brown people down means StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #66

Correct, this is saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #103

They wish slavery were back DBoon Jul 2019 #64

Larger piece of a smaller pie. lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #110

Yep. At least 40% of our country are TRULY deplorable. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #7

Thank you. You are absolutely right StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #8

I have relatives that voted for trump and they are not racists. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #131

If they're still supporting Trump, in my view, yes, they are racists StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #132

He got 35% latino vote and should have been 0%! Oregon1947 Jul 2019 #9

Most Latinos in the US are white Recursion Jul 2019 #10

Not true at all..like to know where you got your stats Oregon1947 Jul 2019 #13

The census Recursion Jul 2019 #14

In the 2010 Census about 53% of hispanics identified as white hispanics. IronLionZion Jul 2019 #26

53% "identifying" as white isn't close to "most" Oregon1947 Jul 2019 #29

Our party needs to work on that IronLionZion Jul 2019 #38

Hispanic is not a race on the census Unless one would pick "other" or is black+ some pick other but lunasun Jul 2019 #69

Anti-abortion Catholics jberryhill Jul 2019 #61

the Latinos and other minorities that support Trump are bigots also JI7 Jul 2019 #84

They are both voting for him BECAUSE of the cruelty and bigotry while ALSO Neema Jul 2019 #15

They are voting for their interests. They are not duped. They Politicub Jul 2019 #23

Yes. That is the worst thing about the Trump presidency, crazytown Jul 2019 #16

"The cruelty is the point, and that's what they want" Anon-C Jul 2019 #17

Yeah. I never believed that economic anxiety bullshit. Aristus Jul 2019 #18

But they do think that suppressing minorities will improve their own economic lot StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #21

K&R onecaliberal Jul 2019 #19

"The cruelty is the point." Politicub Jul 2019 #20

Increasing turnout on our side is better than trying to flip deplorables IronLionZion Jul 2019 #22

👏🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #31

++ go inner city and reach out to new youth IMO not out to rural areas of bigotry and middle age lunasun Jul 2019 #59

For Republicans, the bait is racism/xenophobia; but the prize is financially screwing them (and us). VOX Jul 2019 #24

I'm waiting, Corgigal Jul 2019 #102

I feel that it will really happen shanti Jul 2019 #123

It's hard to gauge where Trumpists would finally balk. VOX Jul 2019 #135

Way too simplistic to be of any value. elevator48 Jul 2019 #25

Agreed..we honestly look ignorant when Oregon1947 Jul 2019 #30

Nope Recursion Jul 2019 #32

poor ppl have the lowest voter turnout. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #77

They do. And the lowest military service rate. Basically all our myths about poor Americans Recursion Jul 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jul 2019 #90

my trumper "Christian" inlaws aren't so poor, mountain grammy Jul 2019 #27

Not so poor and stupid Traildogbob Jul 2019 #34

Here on LI NY... a red dot in a blue state TommyCelt Jul 2019 #45

I feel your pain! Traildogbob Jul 2019 #74

NJ 7th JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #104

Trump's top economic group was households making $75K-$100K Recursion Jul 2019 #36

++ 1K to highlight this fact again . Poverty was not the big push to trump some like to imagine lunasun Jul 2019 #63

Because people on DU aren't above demonizing the poor. killaphill Jul 2019 #105

THIS!!! All day long. They don't care about FACTS or TRUTH at all Baltimike Jul 2019 #33

From the Buddhist perspective vlyons Jul 2019 #35

What about rich white Trump voters? Highly educated but watch FOX news. YOHABLO Jul 2019 #37

Rich people have entirely selfish interests for supporting Trump Recursion Jul 2019 #47

But the policies they support are cruel and racists.Not as much out in public like the ralliers ,but lunasun Jul 2019 #58

They are, quite simply, white supremacists. mainer Jul 2019 #39

Yes they voted for Chump, but nobody knew about Stephen Miller in 2016 FakeNoose Jul 2019 #40

The deplorables are getting screwed. Ligyron Jul 2019 #41

No, they're not. This is what we need to be open-eyed about Recursion Jul 2019 #70

NO!!!!! You are doing what Trump does. zaj Jul 2019 #42

Oh, they're human. All too human. Recursion Jul 2019 #49

"We are talking about garbage people" zaj Jul 2019 #53

Garbage people are people too Recursion Jul 2019 #54

More importantly, I humanize them by giving them the agency they claim Recursion Jul 2019 #57

Excellent - "I humanize them by giving them the agency they claim." harumph Jul 2019 #76

I understand that they are humans Bettie Jul 2019 #65

Yes they are ismnotwasm Jul 2019 #67

THANK YOU!! Locrian Jul 2019 #88

I can't wrap my head around it study war no more Jul 2019 #43

what percentage of them are just caught up in the cult? Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #44

Well spoken. Different Drummer Jul 2019 #46

Imo, far too simplistic and thus too much like hatemongering. Hortensis Jul 2019 #48

Not sure I really buy this 'study' ... real easy to get this sort of thing wrong mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #56

You CAN "buy" and reject whatever you choose. Hortensis Jul 2019 #71

I was only talking about the cited study ... mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #75

:) I once took an on-line test and learned I was RW Hortensis Jul 2019 #85

Disagree. I do know em. harumph Jul 2019 #82

I don't question the role of social media and the 24/7 news media and talking heads in fueling KPN Jul 2019 #93

And they feel exactly the same way about us The Mouth Jul 2019 #50

I had this experience a while back with a Trump-voting friend. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2019 #68

they do not all fit in one category paulkienitz Jul 2019 #72

No. His numbers went *up* after "send her home" Recursion Jul 2019 #73

50%, 40%, 30%? what fraction? harumph Jul 2019 #86

Amen!!!!! SallyHemmings Jul 2019 #78

no thanks. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #79

There was a German writer several months ago peggysue2 Jul 2019 #83

I've got a great idea! Let's demonize our fellow citizens because they don't agree with us!!!! jpljr77 Jul 2019 #87

No, I am not Recursion Jul 2019 #91

How many Germans supported Hitler fervently? harumph Jul 2019 #92

At first and no more than supported Trump uponit7771 Jul 2019 #136

In the last week, I have had two older white men get into conversation with me that it is white men silentEcho Jul 2019 #89

Yup Recursion Jul 2019 #94

After hearing the first one, I have been asking someone to explain it to me. silentEcho Jul 2019 #95

The word many people use is "privilege". Take the idea of "wage stagnation". Recursion Jul 2019 #97

Maybe my brain just doesn't process this the same. White men are still making more silentEcho Jul 2019 #99

That is correct: a white man with a high school diploma still makes more Recursion Jul 2019 #100

This is a damned fine post. hunter Jul 2019 #117

The ones I know believe Trump and the GOP conservatives defacto7 Jul 2019 #96

You are absolutely correct. warmfeet Jul 2019 #98

We are living in the next phase of the Republican strategy to remake 1954 America. Marcuse Jul 2019 #101

Yes, they are full of *hatred*. nt Duppers Jul 2019 #109

I disagree. Many of them are indeed duped simpletons. LonePirate Jul 2019 #106

Ok, but don't you think their tendency to harumph Jul 2019 #108

I agree with you. nt Duppers Jul 2019 #111

I think some of them are angry and want to lash out. The right has given them that mechanism. LonePirate Jul 2019 #115

I've been saying this... Mike Nelson Jul 2019 #112

Hillary called them... Mike Nelson Jul 2019 #113

I Don't Buy It lefty2000 Jul 2019 #116

It's time we end the Civil War. hunter Jul 2019 #118

Yes, stop the hate ok? We hate too wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #128

26.5% of eligible voters, voted for DT. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #120

Hope v. Hate (William Faulkner) DemoTex Jul 2019 #121

Faulkner knew his South! lunatica Jul 2019 #130

Human beings are complex. Collimator Jul 2019 #122

Recommended Ponietz Jul 2019 #126

I have relatives who are poor trump supporters. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #127

Many are imbalanced, bitter, angry and focus this anger on hate of minorities. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #133

Mel Brooks had it right GoneOffShore Jul 2019 #134