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16. Am I correct in thinking the USA and the UK are a bit similar

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 06:15 PM

Sep 2019

The gun laws in England, where they have a diverse population in my opinion, result in .04 murders per 100,000 residents from what I've read. The number is 3.6 per 100,000 for "Merica - that's 90 (NINETY) times as many. Are we really that violent or might it be the epidemic of guns, especially handguns in this country? I'm not positive I'm not a genius but I am leaning towards the massive number of firearms being a large part of the problem.

From a synopsis of UK firearm laws/regulations:

Police checks on an individual or organisation wishing to own a firearm involve criminal record checks, as well as interviews and reports from a GP. A permit cannot be granted unless police are satisfied both that the applicant has a good reason to own the firearm and that they do not pose a threat to public safety.

Prohibited weapons, such as handguns, can be authorized by the Home Office on behalf of the Secretary of State in exceptional circumstances.

Doesn't seem draconian to me.

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Hey gun manufacturers: let's make one thing perfectly clear. [View all] Initech Sep 2019 OP

"...and out of the hands of lunatics and racists." AncientGeezer Sep 2019 #1

Simple: We take 'em out of EVERYBODY's hands--- lastlib Sep 2019 #3

Do we do the same for 1A rights? AncientGeezer Sep 2019 #4

8chan got taken down after one of the shooters posted their manifesto on it. Initech Sep 2019 #7

Taken down by their service provider..not govt. AncientGeezer Sep 2019 #24

Yes, we restrict 1A rights too ... can't yell fire in crowded theater uponit7771 Sep 2019 #29

Yes you can dumbcat Sep 2019 #34

Pettifogging is an indicator of a week position, don't need to say if there's no fire uponit7771 Sep 2019 #38

Or maybe an indicator of a month position? dumbcat Sep 2019 #41

You may have misunderstood the question I asked lastlib... AncientGeezer Sep 2019 #37

You gonna volunteer to help take them away? Falcata Sep 2019 #6

As if! 99% of those advocating confiscation expect others to do it for them friendly_iconoclast Sep 2019 #26

Yes, by voting for people who pay others to do it safely and legally uponit7771 Sep 2019 #30

Simple? FBaggins Sep 2019 #8

Just yesterday I saw a DU post sarisataka Sep 2019 #9

Both posts can still be true. n/t Captain Stern Sep 2019 #20

. sarisataka Sep 2019 #21

Pffthh! Dr. Strange Sep 2019 #25

I don't think you can guarantee you can get the guns out of everyone's hands, but there is a simpler hughee99 Sep 2019 #15

How about a very quiet ban on ammo? CaptYossarian Sep 2019 #28

K&R, No one should have the right to mass kill weapons or ammo. Let them make their own if they uponit7771 Sep 2019 #31

When people can't buy ammo, it will no longer be "quiet". hughee99 Sep 2019 #40

+1, or take the ammo and ban the casings ... weapons "useless" in around 2 years. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #32

They're aware that their pintobean Sep 2019 #2

How I wish MY toys had an Amendment. mac56 Sep 2019 #12

They don't have the right to own any product and that includes products for mass kill devices. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #33

People are coming to defend guns when we have the highest rates of gun homicides JonLP24 Sep 2019 #5

Going shopping Falcata Sep 2019 #36

We still have the highest rates of gun homicides JonLP24 Sep 2019 #39

K&R onecaliberal Sep 2019 #10

'MURICA was FOUNDED on killing people *who needed killin'*: "Injuns", "Negroes", Kennedys...ain't BamaRefugee Sep 2019 #11

they're the reason for the problem barbtries Sep 2019 #13

That's a small price to pay so Wayne LaPierre can be free. world wide wally Sep 2019 #14

Am I correct in thinking the USA and the UK are a bit similar NoMoreRepugs Sep 2019 #16

We're also intrinsically pretty damn violent... sir pball Sep 2019 #19

I think the problem is the younger generation isn't taught how to handle them. Initech Sep 2019 #22

Handle what? sir pball Sep 2019 #23

"Americans are a uniquely violent people." If you mean people from the continent then yes.. EX500rider Sep 2019 #27

Hear, Hear, But they aren't part of the problem, they ARE the problem. Fla Dem Sep 2019 #17

Yup! Initech Sep 2019 #18

+1. Look at their marketing dalton99a Sep 2019 #35