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In reply to the discussion: **He Spent Years Infiltrating White Supremacist Groups. Here's What He Has to Say About What's Going [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)19. Agree. Interestingly, he says there are fewer homicides and
that the internet while used by hate groups has benefited law enforcement more than violent groups.
They use the internet more to communicate today than 20 years ago, ... but that doesnt mean there is more violence. In fact, as the recent cases suggest, internet communications make them far easier to track and infiltrate, so it is more a boost to law enforcement more than to violent militants.
But mass monitoring of social media for clues isnt an effective strategy, as there are far more people expressing racist ideas online than committing violence. The FBI would be very busy chasing down false leads, which would only dull the response. Instead, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies should ... The number of homicides in the U.S. has fallen significantly since the 1980s and 1990s, but so has the clearance rate. Even though there are fewer homicides now, fewer are being solved. I think it is because we are spending so much time and resources on suspicion-less surveillance and intelligence gathering rather than traditional evidence-based law enforcement tactics.
But mass monitoring of social media for clues isnt an effective strategy, as there are far more people expressing racist ideas online than committing violence. The FBI would be very busy chasing down false leads, which would only dull the response. Instead, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies should ... The number of homicides in the U.S. has fallen significantly since the 1980s and 1990s, but so has the clearance rate. Even though there are fewer homicides now, fewer are being solved. I think it is because we are spending so much time and resources on suspicion-less surveillance and intelligence gathering rather than traditional evidence-based law enforcement tactics.
I'm guessing there would be plenty of both overlap and disagreement. From what I've been reading, most of these groups intend revolutionary overthrow of the liberal democracy they hate because it creates and maintains equality. In that, they're pulling the same direction as our other big enemies foreign and domestic -- those in the Republican Party, the religious right, and the wealthy right who can't win in a democratic system; also Russia, China, Iran, and other hostile nations who want to destroy us. All with the goal of actively attacking and undermining our democracy until it falls.
If true, it's hard to imagine we should cut back on surveillance and intelligence gathering. And sure, put as much effort as needed into identifying and stopping those who reach the evidence-producing (active planning and execution) stages also.
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**He Spent Years Infiltrating White Supremacist Groups. Here's What He Has to Say About What's Going [View all]
SummerSnow
Sep 2019
OP
White supremacist won't prosecute white supremacist, or make polies to stop their crimes
SummerSnow
Sep 2019
#5
Who is that woman in your sig line? She keeps charming the pants off of me!
Lucky Luciano
Sep 2019
#28
I agree with him on much, but would love to see Frank Figliuzzi debate him on need for
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#4
I would love to see them debate that too. Hopefully he'll get inited to Rachel Maddow
SummerSnow
Sep 2019
#7
you can type in 'Michael German fbi' then go to news there are several articles about this from
SummerSnow
Sep 2019
#12
I am used to DU posts providing information in regards to the point of their post.
mysteryowl
Sep 2019
#15
Well look who is running the Justice Department and the former both are racist.
SummerSnow
Sep 2019
#13
I didn't read the article but I know that domestic anti terror programs have been defanged
UniteFightBack
Sep 2019
#17
one major problem is we've got 1500 radio stations making excuses for racism and racists and
certainot
Sep 2019
#20