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Hortensis

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19. Agree. Interestingly, he says there are fewer homicides and
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:24 AM
Sep 2019

that the internet while used by hate groups has benefited law enforcement more than violent groups.

They use the internet more to communicate today than 20 years ago, ... but that doesn’t mean there is more violence. In fact, as the recent cases suggest, internet communications make them far easier to track and infiltrate, so it is more a boost to law enforcement more than to violent militants.

But mass monitoring of social media for clues isn’t an effective strategy, as there are far more people expressing racist ideas online than committing violence. The FBI would be very busy chasing down false leads, which would only dull the response. Instead, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies should ... The number of homicides in the U.S. has fallen significantly since the 1980s and 1990s, but so has the clearance rate. Even though there are fewer homicides now, fewer are being solved. I think it is because we are spending so much time and resources on suspicion-less surveillance and intelligence gathering rather than traditional evidence-based law enforcement tactics.

I'm guessing there would be plenty of both overlap and disagreement. From what I've been reading, most of these groups intend revolutionary overthrow of the liberal democracy they hate because it creates and maintains equality. In that, they're pulling the same direction as our other big enemies foreign and domestic -- those in the Republican Party, the religious right, and the wealthy right who can't win in a democratic system; also Russia, China, Iran, and other hostile nations who want to destroy us. All with the goal of actively attacking and undermining our democracy until it falls.

If true, it's hard to imagine we should cut back on surveillance and intelligence gathering. And sure, put as much effort as needed into identifying and stopping those who reach the evidence-producing (active planning and execution) stages also.
MUST READ malaise Sep 2019 #1
nice post pecosbob Sep 2019 #3
As we say malaise Sep 2019 #8
White supremacist won't prosecute white supremacist, or make polies to stop their crimes SummerSnow Sep 2019 #5
That is the absolute truth malaise Sep 2019 #6
+1000! Kind of Blue Sep 2019 #9
Who is that woman in your sig line? She keeps charming the pants off of me! Lucky Luciano Sep 2019 #28
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Yeah, Ms. Baker, so charming an Italian count and an Hungarian calvary Kind of Blue Sep 2019 #32
She is amazing - thanks! Lucky Luciano Sep 2019 #36
Too Funny, I asked you about your handle once upon a time Kind of Blue Sep 2019 #39
Kick dalton99a Sep 2019 #2
I agree with him on much, but would love to see Frank Figliuzzi debate him on need for hlthe2b Sep 2019 #4
I would love to see them debate that too. Hopefully he'll get inited to Rachel Maddow SummerSnow Sep 2019 #7
Agree. Interestingly, he says there are fewer homicides and Hortensis Sep 2019 #19
Yup, no need for new laws or huge intrusive data mining Amishman Sep 2019 #33
You only posted a link. Where is some information from the article? mysteryowl Sep 2019 #10
you can type in 'Michael German fbi' then go to news there are several articles about this from SummerSnow Sep 2019 #12
I am used to DU posts providing information in regards to the point of their post. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #15
Whatever floats your boat SummerSnow Sep 2019 #16
Oh well ChubbyStar Sep 2019 #22
Here's a 4 paragraph excerpt with a link to article: CottonBear Sep 2019 #23
This is kind of you. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #26
You are welcome! CottonBear Sep 2019 #27
I don't want to paint the FBI as the bad guys FakeNoose Sep 2019 #11
Well look who is running the Justice Department and the former both are racist. SummerSnow Sep 2019 #13
Public pressure eventually works..sometimes mountain grammy Sep 2019 #14
I didn't read the article but I know that domestic anti terror programs have been defanged UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #17
Does anyone actually believe that when the Patriot Act was passed pecosbob Sep 2019 #18
one major problem is we've got 1500 radio stations making excuses for racism and racists and certainot Sep 2019 #20
Thanks for this post. BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #21
Bookmarked. calimary Sep 2019 #24
I'm always asking where's Wray and the FBI? Mc Mike Sep 2019 #25
My 2 cents worth all along, My T shirts seen often on BART lambchopp59 Sep 2019 #29
What is BART ? Alwaysna Sep 2019 #37
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Bookmarked..... Heartstrings Sep 2019 #31
Excellent article. Nitram Sep 2019 #34
a lot of clean-out and disinfecting needed at all levels of govt Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #35
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