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StarfishSaver

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25. Do you actually know anyone who has said that's what they would do, or are you speculating?

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 01:44 PM

Sep 2019

And maybe instead of jumping the gun and rushing to take ill-advised actions out of fear that a minority of new voters MIGHT react negatively if we don't do it, why not work to educated them about the process and why their vote actually does matter? And part of that education should be to help them understand why it's batshish crazy to claim to be so upset that the House didn't take steps to impeach Trump (but not remove him from office) that they won't do what's in their power to actually help remove him from office.

We can't have the tail wagging the dog and expect Democratic leadership to run around jumping through hoops because some voters are clueless about the process. Help clue them in about the process.

That is if there truly are people out there who think this way. I haven't met a single person who is so upset about Trump that they want him impeached but will base their vote next November on whether the Democrats impeach or not. Not one single person.

Have you met anyone who has said they're going to do that?

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Do you actually know any Dem who'll be so angry if Trump isn't impeached, they won't vote next year? [View all] StarfishSaver Sep 2019 OP

That is the problem. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #1

and there are no such votes stopdiggin Sep 2019 #31

So is there any reason to trust that they'll vote against him even IF he's impeached? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #71

That is a bogus meme. This election is a referendum on Trump redstateblues Sep 2019 #2

Money in his pocket. TruckFump Sep 2019 #3

It sounds like he won't vote against Trump, impeachment or not StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #5

Has a cup on his office desk... TruckFump Sep 2019 #6

He's not one of the ones I'm asking about StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #9

IMO the Democratic party will harms its future if it fails to impeach Trump in the House. PufPuf23 Sep 2019 #61

I agree StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #63

I have several cousins who will, undoubtedly, continue to vote for it Siwsan Sep 2019 #4

I'm talking about the ones who people here keep telling us we'll lose StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #8

Oops! Ok, that's just crazy! No wonder I misinterpreted the question!! Siwsan Sep 2019 #12

That was my bad. I realize my question wasn't clear, so I rephrased it. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #13

Most of my neighbors will vote for him. Fox News addicts, they love him. SharonAnn Sep 2019 #7

Tell them about Murdoch sharedvalues Sep 2019 #15

Most of them don't believe that Mariana Sep 2019 #112

It works. Have experience. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #113

Typical tRUMPY type!! bluestarone Sep 2019 #74

I wonder, are your neighbors aware Dan Sep 2019 #78

That's it in a nutshell PSPS Sep 2019 #10

Proud rebel Sacramento999 Sep 2019 #11

They might not vote for Pelosi and other Ds in primaries sharedvalues Sep 2019 #14

I don't think Pelosi is worried about losing her seat StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #19

Interesting and don't it. I thought reading was a fundamental skill still_one Sep 2019 #32

I never thought Soxfan58 Sep 2019 #16

And yet so many voted for Dotard that it swung the key 3 states mcar Sep 2019 #24

I suspect that I have one friend/ coworker thst might still be plannig to vote CentralMass Sep 2019 #17

But he's not the kind of voter I'm talking about StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #20

Among my family and friends who are Democrats I don't know anyone who won't vote for the nominee. CentralMass Sep 2019 #28

Nope Bradical79 Sep 2019 #18

It's about the optics of a failed house/senate vote. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #21

I believe there are a lot of younger voters that will be put off from voting because of it. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #22

Do you actually know anyone who has said that's what they would do, or are you speculating? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #25

I know young voters that have expressed this sentiment. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #42

Instead of demanding the House hold impeachment hearings right now to appease these misgided young, StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #48

are your young voters aware stopdiggin Sep 2019 #39

What Mitch McConnell does has no impact on the House doing their job. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #40

can't see the system changing without people getting out to vote stopdiggin Sep 2019 #46

My argument is that they feel their vote doesn't matter. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #49

If they feel that the House not impeaching Trump means that their vote in a presidential election StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #52

Anyone who would do that is not a Democrat mcar Sep 2019 #23

Exactly. And anyone with that attitude can't be trusted to vote Democratic no matter WHAT StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #27

Perhaps because the people pushing the threat mcar Sep 2019 #30

There's not a single lie in your post. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #33

Good point mcar Sep 2019 #43

If about 70 percent of Democrats support impeachment and about 30 percent don't standingtall Sep 2019 #47

If the Judiciary Committee chairman says repeatedly they've opened a formal impeachment inquiry StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #55

So any criticism of how this being handled by those in the majority of how this being handled standingtall Sep 2019 #59

No. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #60

No! peggysue2 Sep 2019 #26

I understand what the OP is asking Runningdawg Sep 2019 #29

But would she sit out because the Democrats didn't impeach or would she sit it out anyway and StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #34

Yes I think she might sit out if they don't impeach Runningdawg Sep 2019 #68

It sounds like impeachment isn't the issue, it's just an excuse StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #70

Something not right about that. She's a committed Democrat redstateblues Sep 2019 #101

Conversely, do we know of any Republicans that will vote for Trump if Democrats impeach? kentuck Sep 2019 #35

ABSOLUTELY! motivation of that base is a very real possibility stopdiggin Sep 2019 #51

No, but I know several who will throw their vote away on a candidate who doesn't have a prayer. nt Laffy Kat Sep 2019 #36

But wouldn't they do that regardless whether the House impeaches? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #37

Sorry for your frustration in getting answers to your post Iwasthere Sep 2019 #38

I'm not frustrated StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #41

specious question nt Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #44

Nailed it. cwydro Sep 2019 #50

but relevant within the frame stopdiggin Sep 2019 #54

Not really. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #79

Every voter I know is angry the other way NotASurfer Sep 2019 #45

The Democratic party apparently cannot get me angry enough to not vote Democratic. PufPuf23 Sep 2019 #53

And this is a good case for not impeaching? Really? Quite a stretch there. KPN Sep 2019 #56

The stretch is yours, not mine, since I said nothing of the kind StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #62

You'll need more than Dems to win. GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #57

No. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2019 #58

No. Not one. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #64

How about this related and more relevant question: gristy Sep 2019 #65

That's what I was thinking as I read through this. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #67

Not voting against Trump includes not voting at all StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #69

What I'm saying is that many folks, young folks in particular, will be so disillusioned gristy Sep 2019 #72

Then they need to grow up and learn that politics isn't only about their illusions and dreams StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #73

"black voters (and other marginalized groups) have been disappointed and disillusioned for decades." betsuni Sep 2019 #89

I love this post. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #90

I love your posts. betsuni Sep 2019 #94

Thanks StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #96

reminds me of those who say people voted for Trump because Obama didn't prosecute Bush JI7 Sep 2019 #106

young people vote for Democratic mostly. lets not hide behind concern of young people as an excuse JI7 Sep 2019 #107

Actually, I don't. But as I found out my fully-adult kids are supporting Marianne and Bernie... Hekate Sep 2019 #66

not buying what you're selling. good grief. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #75

I'm ot "selling" anything. But thanks for the kick! StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #77

I do know some that won't vote unless Dems impeach!! NT ALBliberal Sep 2019 #76

What's their rationale? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #80

They think trump is the most non-law abiding president ALBliberal Sep 2019 #82

So, Trump is the biggest threat ever... TwilightZone Sep 2019 #84

They think Trump's the most non-law abiding president in history, but they're okay with him staying StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #86

To be frank, that's just dumb. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #81

They feel it's Dems constitutional duty to impeach. ALBliberal Sep 2019 #83

if they're willing to let Trump serve another 4 years because they think the Dems aren't doing their StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #87

lol, there are no types. it's just all an excuse for wanting Trump in office JI7 Sep 2019 #108

"Things damn better go the way I like, or I'll shot myself in the knee!" struggle4progress Sep 2019 #85

I wouldn't mind if they shot themselves in the knee. But unfortunately, StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #88

No. NanceGreggs Sep 2019 #91

I don't think anyone here does. But that doesn't stop them from claiming they're out there StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #92

Irrelevant - Impeachment is under way. egduj Sep 2019 #93

No, they wont be angry just demotivated to do anything else but vote knowing there is no election uponit7771 Sep 2019 #95

Perhaps a small percent. But its not about regular Democratic voters. Its about getting new voters LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #97

I will vote for the Democratic nominee. I think Trump should be impeached to uphold the Constitution Nitram Sep 2019 #98

We get to shorten the process and bypass the Republicans tirebiter Sep 2019 #99

One, a supporter of one of our candidates who didn't vote last time because their candidate redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #100

Disillusionment or not being inspired is a funny thing -- people don't talk about it. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #102

I'm old enough to remember when being inspired was a nice-to-have, not a must-have StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #103

I'm with you. I've voted for uninspiring or uninspired Democrats all my life, too. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #104

Some people think it's only about them StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #105

they don't care for Sick kids being deported and at risk of dying JI7 Sep 2019 #109

What is the point of even having impeachment in the Constitution? world wide wally Sep 2019 #110

What does that have to do with my OP? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #111