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SixthSense

(829 posts)
4. I wouldn't use the word "ineffective"
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:24 PM
Jan 2012

Clearly there is a great deal of effect or it wouldn\'t still be prominent today.

I have very specific suggestions on how to improve the effectiveness, however.

Occupy Wall Street needs to actually occupy Wall Street itself. Zuccotti Park is on the other side of Broadway and most of the people who work on Wall Street who would actually see them are the low level staff who need to take the train to work - not the guys with limos and helicopters. OWS needs to heed the call of Mario Savio and physically prevent the evil business going on down there from going about its merry way. This includes blocking the entrance to the stock exchange and the nearby NY Federal Reserve building, as well as buildings in the same immediate vicinity such as Goldman Sachs HQ @ 85 Broad St.

Over in Zuccotti Park they can be corralled and ignored. Go two blocks south and one east and you can bet people will stand up and take notice.

It doesn\'t need to be a coordinated crowd action with signs or anything - do it original flash mob style, coordinate electronically and then just all show up at once. Don\'t be obviously connected to each other, but at the same time stuff so many bodies on Wall and Exchange streets that business can\'t be conducted in its usual fashion.

That was the original point of occupying, wasn\'t it? We need a refresh.


Now Occupy DC has the same problem, only worse. They are also out of the way, and they\'ve never gotten in the faces of the people who are responsible for our mess. They need to be in one of two places, or both: either right at the entrance to Congress, where those who work there cannot ignore them; or alternatively (my favorite) over on K Street which is lobbyist ground central.

Imagine the good that could be done by slowing down the lobbyists and reduce their efficiency at corrupting and stealing our representation! Imagine them needing each to take an extra ten minutes every time they arrive at and leave their offices, just to make their way through the crowd. Imagine the demoralizing effect of identifying them and telling them point blank we know what they are doing and intend to put and end to it.


All the while make sure any and all police action is caught on video by multiple sources so it cannot be hidden or confiscated. Keep a couple of backup observers at a distance in case the police decide to corral, detain and search everyone on site for media equipment to confiscate.


Edit - adding one more thing. Name names. Imagine the fear that will be induced when a corrupt bastard sees his own name on a protest sign! Especially if these are lobbyists who like to work behind the scenes. Think any of these stealth corrupters want to be publicly known as a public enemy? It\'ll scare the piss out of them, maybe enough to cause some to quit/retire.

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For me Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #1
Why are you saying 'they', not 'we'? peacetalksforall Jan 2012 #18
I've protested with OWS Zalatix Jan 2012 #21
John Edwards talked about the 99%, Two Americas, before there was an OWS. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #64
A true 'people's movement' should number in the hundreds of thousands by now. randome Jan 2012 #22
OWS clearly numbers in the hundreds of thousands... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #39
When they are actively marching or act like they have a goal, I am supportive. randome Jan 2012 #42
Well, I plan on writing a very harshly worded letter to my congressman! zappaman Jan 2012 #44
About as effective as living in a tent in a park. randome Jan 2012 #45
That would be a great thing! zappaman Jan 2012 #48
Any day now. Any day... randome Jan 2012 #51
I'm a little disappointed there are only 2 new threads today telling everyone how important OWS zappaman Jan 2012 #52
Have to admit I'm not feeling the vibe much any more. randome Jan 2012 #54
Thank you for your thoughtful response Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #36
But we are accomplishing our goals. You are either deliberately failing to recognize Zorra Jan 2012 #31
Jesus H Christ on a platter! randome Jan 2012 #33
LOL! Duh. Like the Declaration of Independence didn't change the world? Zorra Jan 2012 #37
So now OWS is as important as the founders of our country? randome Jan 2012 #38
More of the same repetitive strawman nonsense and deliberate obtuseness. Zorra Jan 2012 #53
Huh? randome Jan 2012 #56
Just a reminder that when when the Founders, ashling Jan 2012 #66
You are being hit with a deliberate attack tactic... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #43
Those weren't accomplishments. They were 'statements' and philosophical intentions. randome Jan 2012 #50
Or maybe that OWS actively presented its views on Corporate Personhood ashling Jan 2012 #67
Thanks. I know. And it is done very poorly. Zorra Jan 2012 #55
it was a wonderful response. barbtries Jan 2012 #62
Thanks! Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #41
LOL. Perfect! bvar22 Jan 2012 #49
This is not the first time Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #46
Well, then I'm out of possible logical explanations for Zorra Jan 2012 #57
Pat Robertson having conversations with God Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #58
"chirp...chirp... Zorra Jan 2012 #2
working in a social services office Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #3
Thank you for being a social worker. You are one of the most important Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #23
Firewalkwithme speaks for me, too. Thanks! Zalatix Jan 2012 #34
A lot of those who marched in the Occupy the Rose Bowl Parade are now or JDPriestly Jan 2012 #35
Indeed, the Teabaggers have ruined their own cause, but hey they don't care Zalatix Jan 2012 #60
I wouldn't use the word "ineffective" SixthSense Jan 2012 #4
All good suggestions. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #13
Especially that last one, IMO. randome Jan 2012 #14
thanks SixthSense Jan 2012 #30
Great suggestions. And #Occupy Congress begins January 17th. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #24
Flash mobs rock. n/t Zalatix Jan 2012 #61
Why do the two have to be connected? RZM Jan 2012 #5
I think the only thing ANY of us want to see... randome Jan 2012 #6
This is a recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #16
Where in FSM's name do you see the word 'stop' here? randome Jan 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #26
I think Occupy Wall Street has been very effective... Spazito Jan 2012 #7
+1 xchrom Jan 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author NSojac Jan 2012 #12
Yes, one writer pointed out that the conversation has changed from Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #29
Exactly! Spazito Jan 2012 #32
OWS apolitical stance is what apparently bothers some on DU. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #65
A poor way to frame the question NSojac Jan 2012 #8
Bravo! randome Jan 2012 #10
What am I doing? brooklynite Jan 2012 #11
Good. We can all agree the republicans are unconscionable. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #28
Bravo for trying to engage nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #15
Working on an election campaign - helping get progressives in office. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #17
I think the greatest effect is not even being discussed.... AntiFascist Jan 2012 #20
Yup, the strike might be over. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #25
I only know a little about the Los Angeles movement, and they say Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #27
It isn't what the critic/unenthused/whatever is doing that I think is critical but what it is they TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #40
Anyone who is working on a campaign for a Democrat treestar Jan 2012 #47
It's not ineffective from what I see. K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #59
On the West Coast there has been outreach with unions Generic Other Jan 2012 #63
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