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NSojac

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8. A poor way to frame the question

Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:35 PM

Jan 2012

What if we embraced an OWS whose tactics and strategies were as diverse as its constituents? Presumably the people you're addressing have the much the same goals in mind. Armchair critics will be armchair critics but they will sometimes have valid criticism. We've successfully rejected hierarchical power structures and I think it's about time we've done away with hierarchical ideologies (given, of course, a few foundational philosophies). You're either with us, or against us, is in fact Their most supreme one-tool-fits-all method for promoting fear and divisive group-think. Let us try, for once, to not let it rule our decisions.

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For me Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #1

Why are you saying 'they', not 'we'? peacetalksforall Jan 2012 #18

I've protested with OWS Zalatix Jan 2012 #21

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OWS clearly numbers in the hundreds of thousands... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #39

When they are actively marching or act like they have a goal, I am supportive. randome Jan 2012 #42

Well, I plan on writing a very harshly worded letter to my congressman! zappaman Jan 2012 #44

About as effective as living in a tent in a park. randome Jan 2012 #45

That would be a great thing! zappaman Jan 2012 #48

Any day now. Any day... randome Jan 2012 #51

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Have to admit I'm not feeling the vibe much any more. randome Jan 2012 #54

Thank you for your thoughtful response Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #36

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Jesus H Christ on a platter! randome Jan 2012 #33

LOL! Duh. Like the Declaration of Independence didn't change the world? Zorra Jan 2012 #37

So now OWS is as important as the founders of our country? randome Jan 2012 #38

More of the same repetitive strawman nonsense and deliberate obtuseness. Zorra Jan 2012 #53

Huh? randome Jan 2012 #56

Just a reminder that when when the Founders, ashling Jan 2012 #66

You are being hit with a deliberate attack tactic... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #43

Those weren't accomplishments. They were 'statements' and philosophical intentions. randome Jan 2012 #50

Or maybe that OWS actively presented its views on Corporate Personhood ashling Jan 2012 #67

Thanks. I know. And it is done very poorly. Zorra Jan 2012 #55

it was a wonderful response. barbtries Jan 2012 #62

Thanks! Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #41

LOL. Perfect! bvar22 Jan 2012 #49

This is not the first time Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #46

Well, then I'm out of possible logical explanations for Zorra Jan 2012 #57

Pat Robertson having conversations with God Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #58

"chirp...chirp... Zorra Jan 2012 #2

working in a social services office Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #3

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Firewalkwithme speaks for me, too. Thanks! Zalatix Jan 2012 #34

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Indeed, the Teabaggers have ruined their own cause, but hey they don't care Zalatix Jan 2012 #60

I wouldn't use the word "ineffective" SixthSense Jan 2012 #4

All good suggestions. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #13

Especially that last one, IMO. randome Jan 2012 #14

thanks SixthSense Jan 2012 #30

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Flash mobs rock. n/t Zalatix Jan 2012 #61

Why do the two have to be connected? RZM Jan 2012 #5

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This is a recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #16

Where in FSM's name do you see the word 'stop' here? randome Jan 2012 #19

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I think Occupy Wall Street has been very effective... Spazito Jan 2012 #7

+1 xchrom Jan 2012 #9

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Yes, one writer pointed out that the conversation has changed from Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #29

Exactly! Spazito Jan 2012 #32

OWS apolitical stance is what apparently bothers some on DU. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #65

A poor way to frame the question NSojac Jan 2012 #8

Bravo! randome Jan 2012 #10

What am I doing? brooklynite Jan 2012 #11

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Bravo for trying to engage nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #15

Working on an election campaign - helping get progressives in office. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #17

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