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Baked Potato

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41. Inherent Contempt looks interesting, a Report
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019

Excerpt from Page 13 of 90 of the Report:Congress’s Contempt Power and the Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas: Law, History, Practice, and Procedure


Inherent Contempt Proceedings by Committees of Congress

As has been indicated, although the majority of the inherent contempt actions by both the House and the Senate were conducted via trial at the bar of the full body, there is historical evidence to support the notion that this is not the exclusive procedure by which such proceeding can occur. This history, when combined with a 1992 Supreme Court decision addressing the power of Congress to make its own rules for the conduct of impeachment trials,96 strongly suggests that the inherent contempt process can be supported and facilitated by the conduct of evidentiary proceedings and the development of recommendations at the committee level.

And, Page 34:

Enforcement of a Criminal or Inherent Contempt Resolution Against an Executive Branch Official

Although the DOJ appears to have acknowledged that properly authorized procedures for seeking civil enforcement provide the preferred method of enforcing a subpoena directed against an executive branch official,260 the executive branch has consistently taken the position that Congress cannot, as a matter of statutory or constitutional law, invoke either its inherent contempt authority or the criminal contempt of Congress procedures261 against an executive branch official acting on instructions by the President to assert executive privilege in response to a congressional subpoena. Under such circumstances, the Attorney General has previously directed the U.S. Attorney to refrain from pursuing a criminal contempt prosecution under 2 U.S.C. §§192, 194.262 This view is most fully articulated in two opinions by the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) from the mid-1980s,263 and further evidenced by actions taken by the DOJ in the Burford, Miers, and Holder disputes, discussed below.264 As a result, when an executive branch official is invoking executive privilege at the behest of the President, the criminal contempt provision may prove ineffective, forcing Congress to rely on other avenues to enforce subpoenas, including civil enforcement through the federal courts.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL34097

I don’t think Lewandowski was an “Executive Branch Official”. I don’t know how binding the report is, but it covers a lot of what’s been going on. Lotsa case law and legalese.

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It appears congress has stuck their heads in the same sandy beach where the senate holds up lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #1
Patience. The foundations are being put in place. empedocles Sep 2019 #4
LOL Orrex Sep 2019 #40
Hmmm. THe Speaker speaks. Sounds good. empedocles Sep 2019 #2
Yes malaise Sep 2019 #3
Fines through inherent contempt are more likely and effective than trying to lock anyone up StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #5
Detention AND fines are possible under inherent contempt sharedvalues Sep 2019 #9
I know that StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #23
How do they enforce fines? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #34
Attach bank accounts, garnish wages, property liens are some ways StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #36
Wouldn't that get tied up in the courts - for years? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #38
Possibly. But no more so than any attempt to arrest and detain them StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #44
I would like to see them start fining mcar Sep 2019 #46
when the DoJ has been taken over by the mob, you do your own arrests Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #6
+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #7
We don't have a House jail anymore, so there's no place to lock anyone up. pnwmom Sep 2019 #8
Could use a conference room. Or the DC jail sharedvalues Sep 2019 #11
Once we take back the Senate and the White House Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #12
Water boarding isn't torture according to Republicans sharedvalues Sep 2019 #19
I don't think Connolly's right about that, since the US attorney, who is under Barr, pnwmom Sep 2019 #17
No. DC jail is controlled by Muriel Bowser, mayor of DC sharedvalues Sep 2019 #18
DC jail is run by DC sharedvalues Sep 2019 #21
Nobody has the intestinal fortitude to act. Magoo48 Sep 2019 #26
How about chainlink paddocks in the congressional gym. usaf-vet Sep 2019 #29
Exactly. My first thought mjvpi Sep 2019 #43
Blah, Blah, Blah! Take an example from Nike and Just Do It!! Pepsidog Sep 2019 #10
I'd like to believe her but the track record is very weak, going back to W. Evolve Dammit Sep 2019 #13
Exactly! Duppers Sep 2019 #33
as I understand it, the Congress jail cell in the basement is being used for storing Lincolns yaesu Sep 2019 #14
Nope not the jail and never was bottomofthehill Sep 2019 #27
Schiff has hinted at it as well. I say stop hinting and just do it already. triron Sep 2019 #15
Responses to Pelosi on Twitter ArcticFox Sep 2019 #16
Question is does she give that any weight? triron Sep 2019 #30
Let's start with Bill Barr shanti Sep 2019 #20
agree, Moscow Mitch & LowBarr!! onetexan Sep 2019 #22
People on the thread have made interesting comments about the jail but that isn't the problem grantcart Sep 2019 #24
DC jail has this sharedvalues Sep 2019 #25
Congress has the historical benefit of the methods used before. triron Sep 2019 #31
They have to use law enforcement officers that are in the Sgt of Arms office. grantcart Sep 2019 #51
Great point. They should start hiring personnel immediately mjvpi Sep 2019 #47
Is it his committee? wryter2000 Sep 2019 #28
Inherent Contempt Background SevenGensinSC Sep 2019 #32
I just noticed your link here Baked Potato Sep 2019 #45
Absolutely! 👍👍 Duppers Sep 2019 #35
I don't expect them to use this even though it is available. Kablooie Sep 2019 #37
Emphasis on "SHOULD" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #39
Inherent Contempt looks interesting, a Report Baked Potato Sep 2019 #41
Yes. Honestly. He should be locked up for contempt of congress. The Wielding Truth Sep 2019 #42
Let's stop talking about it and actually do it. sinkingfeeling Sep 2019 #48
No way! We have to keep our powder dry! Orrex Sep 2019 #49
+1000 triron Sep 2019 #50
"We should," "we must," "we cannot," SMC22307 Sep 2019 #52
Another K & R Duppers Sep 2019 #53
This was also stated in the letter by the 7 freshman national security reps. triron Sep 2019 #54
Just to be clear: someone charged with "inherent contempt" has due process rights onenote Sep 2019 #55
Filing petition of habeas corpus sharedvalues Sep 2019 #57
knr triron Sep 2019 #56
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