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moondust

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44. Could be a lot.

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:43 PM

Oct 2019

According to this timeline, Dump first made contacts with Russians in 1986 and made his first trip to the USSR in 1987.

Russians started buying up Dump's properties in the U.S. in the 2000s (or before) after they had had some time in the 1990s/2000s to accumulate fortunes in the new Russian kleptocracy.

It's probably a given that (KGB agent) Putin wanted to know all about this Dump guy in the U.S. that his oligarch buddies were dealing with. He very well may have used those oligarchs and Russian intelligence to spy on Dump for years/decades. There could be all kinds of nasty stuff.

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WTF does Putin have on Trump? [View all] milestogo Oct 2019 OP

I think it is multiple things madaboutharry Oct 2019 #1

You know what, probably Iliyah Oct 2019 #2

Among other things: sandensea Oct 2019 #3

Everything. You name it; theft, treason, videos, money laundering, etc.... JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #4

Rump has lost every penny he has ever been given. He owes Putin approx $3 billion Eliot Rosewater Oct 2019 #5

And if not Putin then other Russian oligarchs dflprincess Oct 2019 #18

Yep. The Russian Oligarch co-signors. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2019 #37

I doubt whatever it is would illicit a similar response from a normal human captain queeg Oct 2019 #6

Why does it have to be blackmail or coercion? Lars39 Oct 2019 #7

Something not very large Xipe Totec Oct 2019 #8

It's something outrageous enough to humiliate a man who seems incapable of shame. StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #9

Yes, and it makes him grovel. milestogo Oct 2019 #17

EXCELLENT POINT, StarfishSaver. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #21

Exactly StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #23

Likely Putin having information that Trump is broke. Blue_true Oct 2019 #33

I don't believe that it's about money. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #38

Trump seems to have no shame over money or sex. milestogo Oct 2019 #59

That's SUCH a good point that I haven't seen made anywhere else renate Oct 2019 #47

amazing choice of words! nt deek Oct 2019 #64

Worse than that...MULTIPLE coercive forces from MULTIPLE countries will eventually be revealed! tableturner Oct 2019 #10

Yes, I think Putin was the source of finances when all other sources dried up. Stuart G Oct 2019 #11

tRump donco Oct 2019 #12

I'm guessing child rape budkin Oct 2019 #13

+100000 Pachamama Oct 2019 #20

I don't think that would cause Trump to be fearful unless there is clear video Blue_true Oct 2019 #35

Yeah, unless they were boys being abused Ligyron Oct 2019 #42

I have to agree. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2019 #56

Trumpland Moscow? imanamerican63 Oct 2019 #14

What is the worst thing you can think of that is consistent with Trump's public behavior? RockRaven Oct 2019 #15

Not to mention MrsCheaplaugh Oct 2019 #60

Nothing it's hero worship Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #16

Exactly! Alithea Oct 2019 #55

A lot. Russia has been working him for years. nt Flaleftist Oct 2019 #19

question is what does putin have on the entire republican party?? mucifer Oct 2019 #22

big money bdamomma Oct 2019 #25

After watching bdamomma Oct 2019 #24

What is Active Measures? milestogo Oct 2019 #28

It's an excellent documentary. MelissaB Oct 2019 #34

it can be rented on Amazon diva77 Oct 2019 #48

I don't know if this is the documentary or just trailer bdamomma Oct 2019 #49

Well it points to the ways you can see it. milestogo Oct 2019 #57

mostly money laundering WhiteTara Oct 2019 #26

Putin can have him killed wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #27

I doubt that Putin can do that now given Trump's office. Blue_true Oct 2019 #36

He had enough to own his own jumbo jet Polybius Oct 2019 #62

He could be running a ponzi like scheme. Blue_true Oct 2019 #63

+1 Brilliant point. He fights like hell to hide his taxes bronxiteforever Oct 2019 #65

I have a theory, and the theory that it is... DownFromTheMountain Oct 2019 #29

It worse than anything we can imagine. C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #30

Biggest probably money laundering for the Russian mob Trenzalore Oct 2019 #31

She's smarter and has more experience underpants Oct 2019 #32

has to be that putin could ruin him financially..... Takket Oct 2019 #39

I have to believe we'll find out eventually. Grammy23 Oct 2019 #40

Trump is a money-launderer blogslut Oct 2019 #41

I think it has to do with the fact that Trump is heavily in debt to Russia. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #43

Could be a lot. moondust Oct 2019 #44

a loan and polonium Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #45

It's almost certainly financial crimes. Real estate is rife with money laundering. NCLefty Oct 2019 #46

You can bet the treason began with sex and/or money, and it fanned out from there. VOX Oct 2019 #50

Trump Tower Moscow RandySF Oct 2019 #51

Probably lots of stuff Bradical79 Oct 2019 #52

Trump just adores Putin. Trump aspires to be like Putin in every way. Joe941 Oct 2019 #53

Putin helped him steal an election. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2019 #54

But why was Putin interested in doing that in the first place? milestogo Oct 2019 #58

Laundering money that ended up relayerbob Oct 2019 #61

Shoot, what DOESN'T he have on him? shanti Oct 2019 #66