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moondust

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63. I'd call it extortion.

Wed Nov 6, 2019, 12:56 AM

Nov 2019

I, too, think of "quid pro quo" as both sides being willing participants. In this case Dump was trying to FORCE a Ukraine that was desperate for aid into a trade they hadn't agreed to and no doubt didn't want to make because they knew it was about tipping the scales in domestic U.S. politics. Doing so could jeopardize any future U.S. aid and cooperation and potentially bring untold trouble upon themselves.

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Why do they call it "Quid Pro Quo," when Trump was straight out blackmailing Ukraine? [View all] TheBlackAdder Nov 2019 OP

Because "Quid Pro You" is a nebulous term and it Zoonart Nov 2019 #1

Exactly Fritz67 Nov 2019 #27

The defense comes after the mistake, not before it shintias Nov 2019 #60

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2019 #65

Or possibly because "quid pro quo" is a phrase related to bribery. soldierant Nov 2019 #50

Agree totally. I'm sick of that phrase... Mike 03 Nov 2019 #2

I agree. Call it what it is..a shakedown. Plain and simple. Left-over Nov 2019 #14

I agree w/ you. I like the word 'blackmail' or 'extortion' ... call it what it stands for... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #43

Both "backmail"and "shakedown" work for me. nt oasis Nov 2019 #3

His mafia actions DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #46

I wish they'd use "extortion." Much more accurate than quid pro quo. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #4

Extortion has a nice ring to it NotASurfer Nov 2019 #5

And it fits better. kag Nov 2019 #32

What is the difference between "blackmail" and "extortion"? kentuck Nov 2019 #6

Extortion it is Nancy Waterman Nov 2019 #8

Exactly right. Extortion relies on a quid pro quo, i.e. an exchange of something. Texin Nov 2019 #24

Trump is the one being blackmailed. dchill Nov 2019 #33

Correct Disaffected Nov 2019 #44

Yep. That's his thing. We're just seeing how he runs his business calimary Nov 2019 #45

What you described is not blackmail. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #7

Agreed. Extortion is the word. luvtheGWN Nov 2019 #9

Correct. Thanks! TheBlackAdder Nov 2019 #18

This Soph0571 Nov 2019 #19

Thank you! GoCubsGo Nov 2019 #20

Quite often it is illegal Major Nikon Nov 2019 #30

My point is that we engage in exchanges many times a day which are not illegal. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #34

We must remember impeachment isn't a criminal process, it's a political one Major Nikon Nov 2019 #37

Scump still broke the law. Quid pro whatever or not. Six117 Nov 2019 #10

K&R for using the more precise term to make the crime more clear to the public. JudyM Nov 2019 #11

Some joker in this administration Scarsdale Nov 2019 #12

This is straight up extortion. You do this or else WhiteTara Nov 2019 #13

The U.N. and Hague DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #47

I prefer High Crime... CapnSteve Nov 2019 #15

Quid Pro Quo - A comment from a lawyer Perseus Nov 2019 #16

Always makes me laugh DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #48

K&R, Old tired ass'd M$M group think Stenography ... they hear something and repeat it uponit7771 Nov 2019 #17

Boy THAT says it right there.. pangaia Nov 2019 #28

How is it not bribery, too? albacore Nov 2019 #21

No. It was extortion. Kablooie Nov 2019 #22

They also excuse the Orange Dictator as transactional. gordianot Nov 2019 #23

In Trump's world it's called kneecapping. Pepsidog Nov 2019 #25

I also think extortion... and bribery pangaia Nov 2019 #26

You just handed Trump his new defence... Bradical79 Nov 2019 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #31

It wasn't blackmail, it was extortion, which is a form of bribery Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #35

I think people just like saying, Quid Pro Quo. Bayard Nov 2019 #36

+1 happybird Nov 2019 #41

Joyce Vance says what trump did can be charged as bribery on articles of impeachment iluvtennis Nov 2019 #38

Actually it was extortion. But since it could also be termed bribery. Nitram Nov 2019 #39

Actually, it's extortion relayerbob Nov 2019 #40

Same reason his lies are rarely called lies n/t hibbing Nov 2019 #42

Quid pro Quo Vs Blackmailing JGug1 Nov 2019 #49

no, it was extortion - learn the difference. harumph Nov 2019 #51

It was extortion, do this or else: onecaliberal Nov 2019 #52

It was out and out extortion, UCmeNdc Nov 2019 #53

Quid pro nihilo is more Trump's style JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2019 #54

Quid pro quo is the Republiclown frame much like collusion live love laugh Nov 2019 #55

I hear quid pro quo drmeow Nov 2019 #56

Extortion. Ukraine needed the money mgardener Nov 2019 #57

It's like calling his lies "falsehoods" or "misstatements" for the first 2 years. Vinca Nov 2019 #58

Agree 100%... Catch2.2 Nov 2019 #59

I call it Prid Amateur Quo. 😂 joet67 Nov 2019 #61

Quid Pro Quo, Bribery, And The Constitution Poiuyt Nov 2019 #62

I'd call it extortion. moondust Nov 2019 #63

I've heard Extortion, Bribery, Shake-down, Quid pro quo... I'm not sure when we will find out. :D NCLefty Nov 2019 #64

evil guy threatening your baby with torch. man with water says, do me a favor. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #66