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paleotn

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52. That's been going on for awhile...

Reply to redstatebluegirl (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:12 PM

Nov 2019

Shifting the tax structure from leaning progressive to regressive. Started with the Reagan revolution. Property taxes really don't bother me as much as sales taxes. They are in my mind the most regressive form of taxation. My old home state has one of the highest sales taxes in the country, counting state and local assessment, but no income tax other than a slight tax on certain dividends. Needless to say, it's a ruby red state.

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Has anyone else ever noticed this trend that I see in my state? [View all] redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 OP

New Hampshire has done that for decades. Chemisse Nov 2019 #1

And it's a killer. matt819 Nov 2019 #42

The "Rackets State" Mopar151 Nov 2019 #60

Property taxes TheFarseer Nov 2019 #62

And the services are bare bones. Chemisse Dec 2019 #76

It's a Reaganite tradition... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #2

Yes, our sales tax is so high it has to be impacting the poor. redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #3

This is the philosophy of privatized government DBoon Nov 2019 #10

That's a huge part of it, for sure...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #18

sold every day from 1500 radio stations certainot Nov 2019 #29

Very true. Reduce taxes for the wealthy. Let wnylib Nov 2019 #40

Reagan tabbed them as The Wizard Nov 2019 #69

Yes. It's been pretty standard since Reagan. JHB Nov 2019 #4

Oh, yeah... TruckFump Nov 2019 #5

It's rampant in NC. (n/t) SMC22307 Nov 2019 #6

It is regressive taxation. CentralMass Nov 2019 #7

Exactly. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #22

THIS! KPN Nov 2019 #27

yep. it shifts costs to those who can least afford to pay. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #38

Yep. Absolutely. n/t CousinIT Nov 2019 #8

Generally speaking, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #9

We have an income tax, they just won't raise it or change it so the rich have to pay their share. redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #11

Right. I got that and therefore my post PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #24

Amen! Nt raccoon Nov 2019 #63

It's happened Rebl2 Nov 2019 #12

People also Raftergirl Nov 2019 #13

Sounds like Ohio. brutus smith Nov 2019 #14

Kasich,especially True Blue American Nov 2019 #31

I was about to post this Ohiogal Nov 2019 #37

I just finished Connie's book True Blue American Nov 2019 #39

I read her book when it first came out. Ohiogal Nov 2019 #45

Mine was very hesitant True Blue American Nov 2019 #54

Agree with you 100% Ohiogal Nov 2019 #56

Unfortunately lonely bird Dec 2019 #82

But the lottery is also a voluntary tax. I'm all for it. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #83

Florida vs. California Zorro Nov 2019 #15

Florida The Bopper Nov 2019 #28

Couldn't one of the PACS we have highlight this and do some education for the masses? redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #16

Somebody should -- that's for sure. Robert Reich can't do it all alone! KPN Nov 2019 #30

When you reduce corporate tax... the_sly_pig Nov 2019 #17

Trickle down economics has been a rousing success... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #20

It happens here in IL. I assume it happens everywhere. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2019 #19

In my state they let auto insurers charge a catastrophe fee of $140 per car, per year that goes yaesu Nov 2019 #21

North Carolina Traildogbob Nov 2019 #23

Emissions tests eliminated from yearly car inspections in NC? steventh Nov 2019 #67

Last year, Traildogbob Nov 2019 #68

New cars don't require it anymore fescuerescue Nov 2019 #72

My truck is 11 years old. Traildogbob Dec 2019 #84

3 years fescuerescue Dec 2019 #87

Just new cars fescuerescue Nov 2019 #71

Are you sure Traildogbob Dec 2019 #85

About half of NC is exempted fescuerescue Dec 2019 #88

Just start publizing that a fee is a tax. ... Historic NY Nov 2019 #25

Here in Oregon the Dems have also fallen prey to fees, BUT -- in my opinion largely as a result of KPN Nov 2019 #32

Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2019 #26

They raise fees, yes, but in CA, not property taxes. Liberty Belle Nov 2019 #33

Our last GOP governor, the odious but boring Tim Pawlenty, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #34

The masses who vote for Republicans certainly are ... jimlup Nov 2019 #35

How things have been done in Texas for decades now Aquaria Nov 2019 #36

Arizona is doing this. kairos12 Nov 2019 #41

Definitely a Texas thing, especially when Rick Perry was governor. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #43

We seem to have trouble deciding, as a society, Ron Green Nov 2019 #44

Here in Germany, they raise everything all the time, AND raise fees for all services DFW Nov 2019 #46

Thanks for the information. I've been reading/seeing stuff on the news that the German ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #57

I am indeed of retirement age DFW Dec 2019 #80

Thanks so much for your engaging and thoughtful response. I learn something new all... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #89

Most European countries are no bigger than an average midwestern state DFW Dec 2019 #91

All of those fees are regressive, in that they affect lower income people more guillaumeb Nov 2019 #47

Too busy tiptonic Nov 2019 #48

That's the way it rolls in Wisconsin. Raise fees. Cut services. Shift funding..... usaf-vet Nov 2019 #49

Still nothing done? Wow. If nothing has happened thus far, it probably won't since tech ... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #93

Arizona ThoughtCriminal Nov 2019 #50

Republicans in Wisconsin finally listened thar AllyCat Nov 2019 #51

That's been going on for awhile... paleotn Nov 2019 #52

Yes. Also, a lot of fees and penalties are governments preying Hortensis Nov 2019 #58

Yup! Newest Reality Nov 2019 #53

Sounds like Michigan gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #55

Republicans love regressive taxes because they are regressive people krispos42 Nov 2019 #59

In our country.... SergeStorms Dec 2019 #77

Been going on for decades. warmfeet Nov 2019 #61

ahh, the fee TAX. hiding taxes. yes. i noticed it years ago. pansypoo53219 Nov 2019 #64

They do the same in North Carolina. These fees and sales taxes hurt poorer people more. yardwork Nov 2019 #65

Florida does this also. Oppaloopa Nov 2019 #66

Arkansas has lowered the state income tax 3 sessions in a row. Patterson Nov 2019 #70

Almost anywhere I've ever lived PatSeg Dec 2019 #73

Under bush and republican presidents they've been doing that for decades. No tax increases.... George II Dec 2019 #74

Florida has been doing this since I lived there bluevoter4life Dec 2019 #75

When tax rates stay the same, but appraised value goes up revenue is increased Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2019 #78

Yeah, they prefer use fees to taxes Recursion Dec 2019 #79

The complexity and opacity of how the government funds itself... MrModerate Dec 2019 #81

Ohio Marthe48 Dec 2019 #86

Yes. I call it trickle down tax burden OhioBlue Dec 2019 #90

That's the way it is in Washington State. Aristus Dec 2019 #92