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Mersky

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42. tRump withheld aid to Ukraine from May to September

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:56 PM

Dec 2019

Multiple contacts and communications to Ukrainian officials including tRump's July 25 call over those months. Do this, do this, do this for months. That the putting up the appearance of an investigation into tRump's #1 political opponent's family never occurred, does not take away the months of building desperation and defining what tRump wanted from Ukraine.

It isn't just bribery. It is cartoonishly over-the-top, I'd say, aggravated bribery (extortion). Ridiculous, thwarting Congress's power of the purse, bribery. Overriding the defense dept's role bribery. Abject abuse of power bribery.

I don't want to hear one more argument from another republican that tRump wasn't bribing another country to benefit his reelection campaign.

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Kick backtoblue Dec 2019 #3

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No, But That Is Shady If True.... The_Counsel Dec 2019 #96

Absolutely. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2019 #108

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Semantics Mossfern Dec 2019 #8

Ugh. Turley with his "this is so sad I'm about to cry" face. Asshole. stopbush Dec 2019 #9

Wait! Mossfern Dec 2019 #10

+1 : caught the same lie you did. nt crickets Dec 2019 #16

the mute button G_j Dec 2019 #11

Is the entire Republican argument here that Trump didn't explictly state to Zelensky.... Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2019 #13

Oh FFS the Repukes are way past that now ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #23

Or lie about a consensual affair. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2019 #30

Oh, Turley there are PLENTY of witnesses who have been subpoenaed. crickets Dec 2019 #14

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Martha Roby (R-AL) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #26

Fuck her ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #32

He lied again Mossfern Dec 2019 #27

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'Sucking up,' to retain their 'jobs.' elleng Dec 2019 #47

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I Get It, But Baron Is a Minor That Has Done Nothing to No One at This Point. The_Counsel Dec 2019 #112

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tRump withheld aid to Ukraine from May to September Mersky Dec 2019 #42

+1 crickets Dec 2019 #49

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He stood out as a man of honesty Generic Other Dec 2019 #100

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Matt Gaetz, bullying the witnesses about their failure to witness a fact. ancianita Dec 2019 #58

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Now he's just reeling off lies really quickly - wth? crickets Dec 2019 #61

Classic "Gish Gallop." The_Counsel Dec 2019 #75

D'oh! crickets Dec 2019 #82

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