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wnylib

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16. The impeachment is a necessary duty and
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 10:49 AM
Dec 2019

responsibility. With or without it the GOP might win. If there is a risk of going down, better to do it fighting for the honor of the nation than to not stand up for it at all.

We can win,though. It will not be easy. It will be an ugly fight. The Senate will not convict. Trump will retaliate. He will gloat about being above the law. But this might backfire on him. He gloated about grabbing women and look what happened in the 2018 midterms.

GOP defense in the trial will be that corruption investigation in Ukraine was necessary and legitimate. They will use the trial to do what they wanted Ukraine to do -- portray Biden as corrupt. They will try to "prove" corrupt collusion between Joe, Hunter, and Burisma. They will make it sound convincing to their followers and maybe to independents.

Moscow Mitch will use the trial rules to help the GOP. Impartiality from conservative CJ Roberts will be questionable.

The House prosecution will need to refute GOP claims about the Bidens clearly and decisively with the facts in the couse of proving the case against Trump.

Their plan is to use the Senate trial to derail Biden's Campaign madville Dec 2019 #1
Going hard after Biden could backfire as well Buckeyeblue Dec 2019 #5
I think if they didn't impeach they might have lost, too. mucifer Dec 2019 #2
The clarity of trump using Ukraine to get dirt would not help if this is the tactic the GOP beachbumbob Dec 2019 #3
What are you talking about? The Senate is controlled by the GOP. If the GOP Senators doesn't convict rockfordfile Dec 2019 #4
"Traitor Trump"? kentuck Dec 2019 #9
It's the truth. If the masses can't handle it they deserve what they would get with Trump: A triron Dec 2019 #21
It's most likely that the senate will not convict... N_E_1 for Tennis Dec 2019 #6
Valid points Joinfortmill Dec 2019 #8
Yes, yes, and yes. Joinfortmill Dec 2019 #7
If his taxes really do come out, it could do more damage than the impeachment with how repubs mucifer Dec 2019 #10
The Constitution is a good hill to die on. gulliver Dec 2019 #11
Fix up the breastwork. kentuck Dec 2019 #12
Well said, gab13by13 Dec 2019 #13
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2019 #19
Media pundits want a horse race. And they want to have something to opine about. Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #14
If we remove trump from office we won. Period. Joe941 Dec 2019 #15
The impeachment is a necessary duty and wnylib Dec 2019 #16
The senate republicans will need to think long and hard, they have asiliveandbreathe Dec 2019 #17
The media should be saying that only voter suppression, foreign interference and... Garrett78 Dec 2019 #18
What happens if the fucking Russians taker over our government? struggle4progress Dec 2019 #20
Pity the media implants these highly partisan ideas in people's minds Mr. Ected Dec 2019 #22
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