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40RatRod

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96. I left the room when ...

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:59 PM

Dec 2019

...people (relatives) I respect and love began talking about how great Trump is. Their comments about what he has accomplished were so easy to rebut but I have found that makes no difference to Trumpers so I left and spent time with my dogs. They never disappoint me.

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My Christmas w/ the Trump Lovers in my Family. [View all] smirkymonkey Dec 2019 OP

Good for you SM Ohiogal Dec 2019 #1

I love and hope. Kath2 Dec 2019 #10

Thanks Ohiogal! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #16

Smirky Use The Wild Card - Trump Has Told 15,000 Lies DanieRains Dec 2019 #23

There is also the 6th Commandment.... Heartstrings Dec 2019 #39

They will tell me it is a liberal lie. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #61

With your Mom's drinking I hope she doesn't have any opioids to take, too! That can be more abqtommy Dec 2019 #2

I was kind of worried about what meds she was taking. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #4

Thanks for clarifying that. I know I never thought of my Step-Mom as "Mom" but then I don't abqtommy Dec 2019 #8

Thank you abqtommy. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #106

During the House hearings (all of them). Delmette2.0 Dec 2019 #27

Thanks Delmette! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #62

Valium & ETOH DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #53

I agree. When I started using psychiatric medication I stopped drinking since survival is my abqtommy Dec 2019 #86

Happy New Year to you! Kath2 Dec 2019 #3

Happy New Year Kath! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #6

Hugs to you dmr Dec 2019 #5

It's like talking to a brick wall. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #7

Bingo! Brick walls. 'Nuff said! LakeArenal Dec 2019 #42

There's no way to "convince" them moose65 Dec 2019 #100

This is how we navigate Republican family members cilla4progress Dec 2019 #9

It's amazing how we can usually behave ourselves since we are pretty much split down the smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #63

Their brains have been rewired. dalton99a Dec 2019 #11

Yes, I know. That is why I wanted to put a stop to it. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #17

"Their brains have been rewired" -- wow, what a perfect description renate Dec 2019 #22

You done good. Peace in the New Year. Hekate Dec 2019 #12

Thanks Hekate! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #64

I only talk to Trump supporters about his upcoming cuts to Social Security and Medicare TeamPooka Dec 2019 #13

They think they are immune, but they aren't. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #19

You're nicer than I would be. lindysalsagal Dec 2019 #14

If we don't discuss politics, they aren't all that bad. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #28

I was able to escape that fate this year, our normal family dinner was cancelled. Whew! George II Dec 2019 #15

Lucky you! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #29

Yes thanks. My wife and I had a nice, peaceful Christmas. I feel your pain, though..... George II Dec 2019 #38

You did the right thing. You made your point and badhair77 Dec 2019 #18

I think eventually they will get it. They even admitted that they thought he was an asshole, but smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #30

Good move. At least they admit he's an asshole. That's a step. At some point badhair77 Dec 2019 #40

Seriously? They thought the wall had been built? gristy Dec 2019 #50

I have a trump loving sister who basically threw me out of "her" family 3 years ago. pazzyanne Dec 2019 #51

That's the problem if you engage. It will never end. They will never let you go and will smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #66

It's an impossible conversation when facts don't matter. spanone Dec 2019 #20

Exactly. It is pointless. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #31

You did great; I woudn't have lasted. They sound 'well prepared' to me, appalachiablue Dec 2019 #21

I'm pretty sure they have been boning up on that course. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #36

Yes, I understand, there's only so much you can do. A blood letting appalachiablue Dec 2019 #46

I am afraid that this is what has happened to these certain members of my family. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #72

You too, Happy New Year! appalachiablue Dec 2019 #95

"I hate the way they think, but it is not as black and white as the way everyone here thinks" Collimator Dec 2019 #24

Thank you Collimator. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #60

Never debate people making bad-faith arguments is one of my rules. Hassler Dec 2019 #25

That's why I cut it off. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #73

I also had a holiday with my Trump lover family! mtngirl47 Dec 2019 #26

Your relatives sound like the topic of the film, 'The Brainwashing appalachiablue Dec 2019 #37

Good for you mtngirl47. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #67

I agree. He is so not worth it. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #70

I found out on Christmas that my niece has BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #32

The only way it can work is if people promise to refrain from discussing politics. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #68

it is complicated. my partner and i spent 6 hours with my trump sister and trump husband. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #33

I quit trying to change minds. JohnnyRingo Dec 2019 #34

I would be so tempted to say, "since when did you become concerned about LuckyLib Dec 2019 #45

A great argument stopper: Aussie105 Dec 2019 #35

The only problem with that is: what if... GReedDiamond Dec 2019 #44

Good idea. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #77

Champagne and pomegranate liqueur? guillaumeb Dec 2019 #41

Apparently it's a thing this season. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #74

Freak of families here. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #43

You are extremely lucky. paleotn Dec 2019 #49

Nah. We will hope they keep us, let alone switch!! LakeArenal Dec 2019 #59

You are not a freak, you are just very lucky! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #75

You should give them quotes from hitler and trump nini Dec 2019 #47

It is complicated and everyone's situation is different... paleotn Dec 2019 #48

Every family and friendship that breaks up Turbineguy Dec 2019 #52

truth dustyscamp Dec 2019 #56

I will not give him that satisfaction. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #76

And Putin (n/t) Pluvious Dec 2019 #98

Oh HELL NO I'm not alienating the dumpers in my life because they are going to hear my mouth UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #54

Perhaps it is futile Stargleamer Dec 2019 #55

I have archives filled with factual ammunition. Do you think they will ever accept it? smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #79

Family, tied up in love. I can not believe my father supports this man, but bet he does. Lexee Dec 2019 #57

Sorry to hear that Lexee. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #80

I agree. Lexee Dec 2019 #89

This is what worries me, lots of people out there think like them. The Pepsidog Dec 2019 #58

I'm glad I'm black. Never happens to me. I don't know a should who voted for him, so there's that Dream Girl Dec 2019 #65

Actually, that was a hilarious skit. Personally, I don't know any white friends who voted for him, smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #82

I have a brother who is a libertarian...and a cousin who is a Trumper...other than that all Democrat Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #69

it's about graciousness KT2000 Dec 2019 #71

Yes, exactly. They can not be civil. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #83

I am sorry that happened to you. And you are right. It is nothing more than bad manners. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #87

Thanks - and KT2000 Dec 2019 #90

Never underestimate the importance lunatica Dec 2019 #78

Thanks lunatica. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #84

I feel blessed to have no Trumpers in my immediate family. ooky Dec 2019 #81

Good for you, ooky! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #85

You too smirky. ooky Dec 2019 #88

The right wingers I know can't resist bringing up politics, even when we agree not to. CrispyQ Dec 2019 #91

It's like they have no positive agenda. Pissing off the libs seems to be their primary motivation. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #92

I'd be in a major pickle if my parents were still alive. lark Dec 2019 #93

Good policy! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #101

I'm sure it through your mind, but not theirs packman Dec 2019 #94

They thought this of Obama, but not of Trump. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #103

I left the room when ... 40RatRod Dec 2019 #96

I'm with you friend Pluvious Dec 2019 #99

My one consolation was their dog. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #104

My family is normal. I'm sorry for you. rickford66 Dec 2019 #97

People like that don't come to our house DFW Dec 2019 #102

It must be nice to live in Europe DFW! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #105

Europe has its ups and downs DFW Dec 2019 #113

I'm so lucky, the only family I spend time with at Christmas louis-t Dec 2019 #107

You are lucky. It's hard walking on eggshells during the holidays. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #109

My family is similar onlyadream Dec 2019 #108

Sorry to hear that onlyadream, I relate completely. We have the same policy, but once smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #110

As for loving asshole relatives, God gave me my relatives, but I will choose my friends. olegramps Dec 2019 #111

My favorite part is when we don't even disagree on something and I'm getting hammered just because Bonx Dec 2019 #112

I am glad you made the best of it mvd Dec 2019 #114

Oh my, smirky. Sounds like a tough day. Totally Tunsie Dec 2019 #115

Thanks Tunsie! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #116

Please let it be so! Totally Tunsie Dec 2019 #118

Loving Trumpistas JGug1 Dec 2019 #117

Thank you JGug1. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #120

It sounds like you don't want to discuss it with them anymore, but if you do... coti Dec 2019 #119