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Pluvious

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99. I'm with you friend

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 03:11 PM

Dec 2019

I've tried all the options of handling the rabid right wingers, and finally concluded there is no upside to any engagement.

You might as well try to argue with someone to stop liking chocolate.

They seem to derive a perverse pleasure out of getting my goat. So I'll deny them that entertainment.

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My Christmas w/ the Trump Lovers in my Family. [View all] smirkymonkey Dec 2019 OP

Good for you SM Ohiogal Dec 2019 #1

I love and hope. Kath2 Dec 2019 #10

Thanks Ohiogal! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #16

Smirky Use The Wild Card - Trump Has Told 15,000 Lies DanieRains Dec 2019 #23

There is also the 6th Commandment.... Heartstrings Dec 2019 #39

They will tell me it is a liberal lie. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #61

With your Mom's drinking I hope she doesn't have any opioids to take, too! That can be more abqtommy Dec 2019 #2

I was kind of worried about what meds she was taking. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #4

Thanks for clarifying that. I know I never thought of my Step-Mom as "Mom" but then I don't abqtommy Dec 2019 #8

Thank you abqtommy. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #106

During the House hearings (all of them). Delmette2.0 Dec 2019 #27

Thanks Delmette! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #62

Valium & ETOH DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #53

I agree. When I started using psychiatric medication I stopped drinking since survival is my abqtommy Dec 2019 #86

Happy New Year to you! Kath2 Dec 2019 #3

Happy New Year Kath! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #6

Hugs to you dmr Dec 2019 #5

It's like talking to a brick wall. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #7

Bingo! Brick walls. 'Nuff said! LakeArenal Dec 2019 #42

There's no way to "convince" them moose65 Dec 2019 #100

This is how we navigate Republican family members cilla4progress Dec 2019 #9

It's amazing how we can usually behave ourselves since we are pretty much split down the smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #63

Their brains have been rewired. dalton99a Dec 2019 #11

Yes, I know. That is why I wanted to put a stop to it. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #17

"Their brains have been rewired" -- wow, what a perfect description renate Dec 2019 #22

You done good. Peace in the New Year. Hekate Dec 2019 #12

Thanks Hekate! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #64

I only talk to Trump supporters about his upcoming cuts to Social Security and Medicare TeamPooka Dec 2019 #13

They think they are immune, but they aren't. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #19

You're nicer than I would be. lindysalsagal Dec 2019 #14

If we don't discuss politics, they aren't all that bad. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #28

I was able to escape that fate this year, our normal family dinner was cancelled. Whew! George II Dec 2019 #15

Lucky you! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #29

Yes thanks. My wife and I had a nice, peaceful Christmas. I feel your pain, though..... George II Dec 2019 #38

You did the right thing. You made your point and badhair77 Dec 2019 #18

I think eventually they will get it. They even admitted that they thought he was an asshole, but smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #30

Good move. At least they admit he's an asshole. That's a step. At some point badhair77 Dec 2019 #40

Seriously? They thought the wall had been built? gristy Dec 2019 #50

I have a trump loving sister who basically threw me out of "her" family 3 years ago. pazzyanne Dec 2019 #51

That's the problem if you engage. It will never end. They will never let you go and will smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #66

It's an impossible conversation when facts don't matter. spanone Dec 2019 #20

Exactly. It is pointless. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #31

You did great; I woudn't have lasted. They sound 'well prepared' to me, appalachiablue Dec 2019 #21

I'm pretty sure they have been boning up on that course. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #36

Yes, I understand, there's only so much you can do. A blood letting appalachiablue Dec 2019 #46

I am afraid that this is what has happened to these certain members of my family. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #72

You too, Happy New Year! appalachiablue Dec 2019 #95

"I hate the way they think, but it is not as black and white as the way everyone here thinks" Collimator Dec 2019 #24

Thank you Collimator. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #60

Never debate people making bad-faith arguments is one of my rules. Hassler Dec 2019 #25

That's why I cut it off. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #73

I also had a holiday with my Trump lover family! mtngirl47 Dec 2019 #26

Your relatives sound like the topic of the film, 'The Brainwashing appalachiablue Dec 2019 #37

Good for you mtngirl47. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #67

I agree. He is so not worth it. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #70

I found out on Christmas that my niece has BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #32

The only way it can work is if people promise to refrain from discussing politics. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #68

it is complicated. my partner and i spent 6 hours with my trump sister and trump husband. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #33

I quit trying to change minds. JohnnyRingo Dec 2019 #34

I would be so tempted to say, "since when did you become concerned about LuckyLib Dec 2019 #45

A great argument stopper: Aussie105 Dec 2019 #35

The only problem with that is: what if... GReedDiamond Dec 2019 #44

Good idea. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #77

Champagne and pomegranate liqueur? guillaumeb Dec 2019 #41

Apparently it's a thing this season. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #74

Freak of families here. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #43

You are extremely lucky. paleotn Dec 2019 #49

Nah. We will hope they keep us, let alone switch!! LakeArenal Dec 2019 #59

You are not a freak, you are just very lucky! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #75

You should give them quotes from hitler and trump nini Dec 2019 #47

It is complicated and everyone's situation is different... paleotn Dec 2019 #48

Every family and friendship that breaks up Turbineguy Dec 2019 #52

truth dustyscamp Dec 2019 #56

I will not give him that satisfaction. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #76

And Putin (n/t) Pluvious Dec 2019 #98

Oh HELL NO I'm not alienating the dumpers in my life because they are going to hear my mouth UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #54

Perhaps it is futile Stargleamer Dec 2019 #55

I have archives filled with factual ammunition. Do you think they will ever accept it? smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #79

Family, tied up in love. I can not believe my father supports this man, but bet he does. Lexee Dec 2019 #57

Sorry to hear that Lexee. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #80

I agree. Lexee Dec 2019 #89

This is what worries me, lots of people out there think like them. The Pepsidog Dec 2019 #58

I'm glad I'm black. Never happens to me. I don't know a should who voted for him, so there's that Dream Girl Dec 2019 #65

Actually, that was a hilarious skit. Personally, I don't know any white friends who voted for him, smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #82

I have a brother who is a libertarian...and a cousin who is a Trumper...other than that all Democrat Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #69

it's about graciousness KT2000 Dec 2019 #71

Yes, exactly. They can not be civil. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #83

I am sorry that happened to you. And you are right. It is nothing more than bad manners. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #87

Thanks - and KT2000 Dec 2019 #90

Never underestimate the importance lunatica Dec 2019 #78

Thanks lunatica. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #84

I feel blessed to have no Trumpers in my immediate family. ooky Dec 2019 #81

Good for you, ooky! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #85

You too smirky. ooky Dec 2019 #88

The right wingers I know can't resist bringing up politics, even when we agree not to. CrispyQ Dec 2019 #91

It's like they have no positive agenda. Pissing off the libs seems to be their primary motivation. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #92

I'd be in a major pickle if my parents were still alive. lark Dec 2019 #93

Good policy! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #101

I'm sure it through your mind, but not theirs packman Dec 2019 #94

They thought this of Obama, but not of Trump. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #103

I left the room when ... 40RatRod Dec 2019 #96

I'm with you friend Pluvious Dec 2019 #99

My one consolation was their dog. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #104

My family is normal. I'm sorry for you. rickford66 Dec 2019 #97

People like that don't come to our house DFW Dec 2019 #102

It must be nice to live in Europe DFW! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #105

Europe has its ups and downs DFW Dec 2019 #113

I'm so lucky, the only family I spend time with at Christmas louis-t Dec 2019 #107

You are lucky. It's hard walking on eggshells during the holidays. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #109

My family is similar onlyadream Dec 2019 #108

Sorry to hear that onlyadream, I relate completely. We have the same policy, but once smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #110

As for loving asshole relatives, God gave me my relatives, but I will choose my friends. olegramps Dec 2019 #111

My favorite part is when we don't even disagree on something and I'm getting hammered just because Bonx Dec 2019 #112

I am glad you made the best of it mvd Dec 2019 #114

Oh my, smirky. Sounds like a tough day. Totally Tunsie Dec 2019 #115

Thanks Tunsie! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #116

Please let it be so! Totally Tunsie Dec 2019 #118

Loving Trumpistas JGug1 Dec 2019 #117

Thank you JGug1. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #120

It sounds like you don't want to discuss it with them anymore, but if you do... coti Dec 2019 #119