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Demovictory9

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Mon Dec 30, 2019, 07:48 AM Dec 2019

"I study liars. I've never seen one like Donald Trump." - high rate of cruel lies [View all]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-liar-20171208-story.html

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In Trump's first 298 days in office, however, he made 1,628 false or misleading claims or flip-flops, by The Post's tally. That's about six per day, far higher than the average rate in our studies. And of course, reporters have access to only a subset of Trump's false statements — the ones he makes publicly — so unless he never stretches the truth in private, his actual rate of lying is almost certainly higher.

That rate has been accelerating. Starting in early October, The Post's tracking showed that Trump told a remarkable nine lies a day, outpacing even the biggest liars in our research.

But the flood of deceit isn't the most surprising finding about Trump.

Both the college students and the community members in our study served their own interests with their lies more often than other people's interests. They told lies to try to advantage themselves in the workplace, the marketplace, their personal relationships and just about every other domain of everyday life. For example, a salesperson told a customer that the jeans she was trying on were not too tight, so she could make the sale. The participants also lied to protect themselves psychologically: One college student told a classmate that he wasn't worried about his grades, so the classmate wouldn't think he was stupid.

Less often, the participants lied in kind ways, to help other people get what they wanted, look or feel better, or to spare them from embarrassment or blame. For example, a son told his mother he didn't mind taking her shopping, and a woman took sides with a friend who was divorcing, even though she thought her friend was at fault, too.

About half the lies the participants told were self-serving (46 percent for the college students, 57 percent for the community members), compared with about a quarter that were kind (26 percent for the students, 24 percent for the community members). Other lies did not fit either category; they included, for instance, lies told to entertain or to keep conversations running smoothly.

One category of lies was so small that when we reported the results, we just tucked them into a footnote. Those were cruel lies, told to hurt or disparage others. For example, one person told a co-worker that the boss wanted to see him when he really didn't, "so he'd look like a fool." Just 0.8 percent of the lies told by the college students and 2.4 percent of the lies told by the community members were mean-spirited.

My colleagues and I found it easy to code each of our participants' lies into just one category. This was not the case for Trump. Close to a quarter of his false statements (24 percent) served several purposes simultaneously.

Nearly two-thirds of Trump's lies (65 percent) were self-serving. Examples included: "They're big tax cuts — the biggest cuts in the history of our country, actually" and, about the people who came to see him on a presidential visit to Vietnam last month: "They were really lined up in the streets by the tens of thousands."

Slightly less than 10 percent of Trump's lies were kind ones, told to advantage, flatter or protect someone else. An example was his statement on Twitter that "it is a 'miracle' how fast the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police were able to find the demented shooter and stop him from even more killing!" In the broadest sense, it is possible to interpret every lie as ultimately self-serving, but I tried to stick to how statements appeared on the surface.

Trump told 6.6 times as many self-serving lies as kind ones. That's a much higher ratio than we found for our study participants, who told about double the number of self-centered lies compared with kind ones.

The most stunning way Trump's lies differed from our participants', though, was in their cruelty. An astonishing 50 percent of Trump's lies were hurtful or disparaging. For example, he proclaimed that John Brennan, James Clapper and James Comey, all career intelligence or law enforcement officials, were "political hacks." He said that "the Sloppy Michael Moore Show on Broadway was a TOTAL BOMB and was forced to close." He insisted that other "countries, they don't put their finest in the lottery system. They put people probably in many cases that they don't want." And he claimed that "Ralph Northam, who is running for Governor of Virginia, is fighting for the violent MS-13 killer gangs & sanctuary cities."
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what makes trump different mnmoderatedem Dec 2019 #1
I think they know he's lying, they just don't care. He dewsgirl Dec 2019 #4
Trump is a reflection of the morality of his supporters--amoral and malicious. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #24
Heartbreaking.💔 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #32
right, they're authoritarian followers. paulkienitz Dec 2019 #34
But some of them are part of the group being taken advantage of, dewsgirl Dec 2019 #36
yup Joinfortmill Dec 2019 #41
Trumpers revel in the cruel lies since they DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #7
BINGO! TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #25
"trump davidians" - perfect description Duppers Dec 2019 #9
Few are raised to be leaders, many are raised to be followers and the majority are in between. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #26
"trump davidians" - perfect description Duppers Dec 2019 #11
Mr. Non-Presidential Fyrefox Dec 2019 #2
That is what makes it feel so hopeless. When Republicans are actively working ooky Dec 2019 #27
You mean, "radical left democrats". It's always that from IPOTUS. rickyhall Dec 2019 #39
Very interesting. Why don't our candidates talk about Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #3
Bernie seems to be the only one, at a recent rally in Los Angeles said trump is a pathological liar RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2019 #6
I think adding statistics or actually quoting him is Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #8
The problem is it gets reduced to false equivalency localroger Dec 2019 #10
Very true point I haven't heard anyone make! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #13
A quarter of all lies are to be kind. That's actually a lot. Hortensis Dec 2019 #5
trump is a soulless cruel, evil being liberal N proud Dec 2019 #12
"Lying" doesn't quite capture what Trump does Boomer Dec 2019 #14
He knows, as a matter of propaganda theory, that truth doesn't matter localroger Dec 2019 #15
You're giving Trump too much credit Boomer Dec 2019 #17
He is delusional. kentuck Dec 2019 #19
Mental illness is a CONCEPT, not a physical, medical disease. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2019 #21
There's a lot of "post-Szasz" science that's at odds with Szasz's "behavioral expression." VOX Dec 2019 #38
The two things are not mutually exclusive localroger Dec 2019 #33
I don't agree. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2019 #18
I thought one of the main papers had him over 16,000 in lies so far. Frustratedlady Dec 2019 #16
Looks like the above story is two years old. califootman Dec 2019 #20
Oh, OK. I missed that. n/t Frustratedlady Dec 2019 #22
The Washington Post reports that as of December 10, 2019, Trump has told 15,413 lies. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #40
putin knew EXACTLY what he was buying! bluestarone Dec 2019 #23
That's because Putin's personal (ill-acquired) fortune has replaced daddy Fred's Lock him up. Dec 2019 #42
The Sun is Blue HumblePi Dec 2019 #28
The Sun is Blue HumblePi Dec 2019 #29
He is a text book sociopath tavernier Dec 2019 #30
All that cruelty is why he has the evangelical vote RainCaster Dec 2019 #31
What is flabberghasting orangecrush Dec 2019 #35
That's because (in part) they are guilty of taking money from Russian sources Lock him up. Dec 2019 #43
He keeps lying because it works for him. world wide wally Dec 2019 #37
He will never stop, because it's never his fault. Lock him up. Dec 2019 #44
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