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Martin Eden

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23. A nation, ultimately, is its people

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:38 PM

Jan 2020

It is difficult not to get disgusted and discouraged at the tens of millions who voted for and support the vile racist demagogue trashing our country and tearing it apart.

But America is also populated by tens of millions of intelligent compassionate people doing what they can to live their lives peacefully and build a better future for those who come after us.

It is a nasty, bitter, frustrating struggle.

There is abundant beauty to be found in people and in the natural world around us.

What you find depends on what you seek, and where you seek it.

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I'm 78. I did not want my last years to be like this. [View all] trof Jan 2020 OP

Nationalism sucks safeinOhio Jan 2020 #1

"the measles of mankind," Einstein called it. lastlib Jan 2020 #37

I feel the same oldtime dfl_er Jan 2020 #2

Remember when you could hear the national anthem at a baseball game and not wonder if... Girard442 Jan 2020 #15

Thank you for putting what is also my story into words. pazzyanne Jan 2020 #59

Me too. Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #61

yup jackcrow2001 Jan 2020 #77

Yeah, so true. Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #86

Take a vow to outlive drumph - it does help. BSdetect Jan 2020 #3

Sharing a family motto: Outlive the bastard! JohnnyLib2 Jan 2020 #6

I'm with you, trof. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #4

I feel you.. dhill926 Jan 2020 #5

Here's to outliving the orange baboon Blecht Jan 2020 #7

I remember on election night, back when I was a mere 53, maxsolomon Jan 2020 #8

At 73 am with you but would quibble about only *one* fool in the WH over years. UTUSN Jan 2020 #9

Yes starting with Raygun and Bush CIA I Contra burrowowl Jan 2020 #19

1963 broke us. librechik Jan 2020 #72

Been thinking the same damn thing for months! :-( Raven Jan 2020 #10

Do What You Can For Good DanieRains Jan 2020 #11

Oh how I share your Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #12

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I'm 72 Sonny Mirviss Jan 2020 #20

I will soon be 72... Freedomofspeech Jan 2020 #30

Not this boomer Sonny Mirviss Jan 2020 #33

Good for you.... Freedomofspeech Jan 2020 #57

Yeah, Medicare, Medicaid, and that Great Society legislation really are overrated, aren't they? ehrnst Jan 2020 #71

Oh, they're fine Sonny Mirviss Jan 2020 #73

Please don't forget that American military "Advisors".... Toorich Jan 2020 #80

Yes, LBJ, the Texas Oil Man, lied us into the Vietnam War and yes erlewyne Jan 2020 #62

Many people agree with you, erlewyne! B Stieg Jan 2020 #88

I just wish bdamomma Jan 2020 #14

your anger, resentment, sense of betrayal is orleans Jan 2020 #16

Don't make yourself promises other people aren't likely to want to keep for you. Aussie105 Jan 2020 #17

After 2020, a tax revolt may be our only real means of dislodging the heinous ratfuckers Ponietz Jan 2020 #18

4 Months to 65 SCVDem Jan 2020 #21

Hang in there. Lonestarblue Jan 2020 #22

A nation, ultimately, is its people Martin Eden Jan 2020 #23

((trof)) blm Jan 2020 #24

Same here. BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #25

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2020 #26

I know the flag belongs to us and not them; it's one reason I ended up with the VFP at marches... Hekate Jan 2020 #93

I'm 71 and I knew Toorich Jan 2020 #27

I just turned 72 xxqqqzme Jan 2020 #28

Happy belated Birthday. Wawannabe Jan 2020 #83

Thank you xxqqqzme Jan 2020 #87

Feeling the same way, Trof PlanetBev Jan 2020 #29

Life is sure different yuiyoshida Jan 2020 #31

I hope to live as long as you already have. But my view is a bit more Blue_true Jan 2020 #32

My parents are in their mid-80's RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #34

At 79 i feel your pain/anger/frustration tiredtoo Jan 2020 #35

I'm 75 and I absolutely refuse to die before the orange slug does. Croney Jan 2020 #36

I'm almost 76 and I feel exactly the same way. Mickju Jan 2020 #38

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #39

I'm 72 radical noodle Jan 2020 #40

I offer the inimitable words of my old buddy Steve. byronius Jan 2020 #41

Thanks for this. ZZenith Jan 2020 #49

Thank you for the most hopeful DU post I've read. yonder Jan 2020 #51

I hear you, trof Skittles Jan 2020 #42

Exactly. I for one, never really got over that. Where's Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #44

we all need to "look forward" Skittles Jan 2020 #45

We WILL defeat this monster and life will be good trof! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #43

There's hope. Destroying Trump and this corrupt GOP is as easy and necessary as democratizing certainot Jan 2020 #46

I just realized how much anxiety is in my life now young_at_heart Jan 2020 #47

"I did not want my last years to be like this." myohmy2 Jan 2020 #48

What are your thoughts on American Exceptionalism? arthritisR_US Jan 2020 #50

meh Ain't no sucha thing. trof Jan 2020 #89

My thoughts exactly. arthritisR_US Jan 2020 #90

you deserve to be angry.. they did lie to you...to us.. samnsara Jan 2020 #52

You hit a real nerve G_j Jan 2020 #53

I'm a teeny tiny blip on the radar of history. I'm thankful that i lived at all. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #54

Trof, when we drop dead, others have to live on with what we leave. Hortensis Jan 2020 #55

As much as I agree with the statement, I don't find it credible. no_hypocrisy Jan 2020 #56

I'm 69 and I feel the same way. I'm actually spending time trying to figure out Nay Jan 2020 #58

I feel your pain brother HAB911 Jan 2020 #60

George Carlin was right. Initech Jan 2020 #63

Not to rain on your rant, but . . . MrModerate Jan 2020 #64

I'm 71 and wmarine Jan 2020 #65

They lied up and down about Iraq and Afghanistan too. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #66

righteous rant. trof.. Permanut Jan 2020 #67

Why do you only have 5 to 7 years left? Iwasthere Jan 2020 #68

What you wrote, I love: slide into my grave like it's home plate. JudyM Jan 2020 #82

At 82 I try to be a realistic optimist. BarbD Jan 2020 #69

Feeling the pain. I'm 75. kskiska Jan 2020 #70

Hey trof, great rant and here is why erlewyne Jan 2020 #74

I'm 70, and this young lady captures my feelings exactly. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #75

I love you because this is exactly where I go when i feel the darkness underthematrix Jan 2020 #76

He's waisted our precious time. We won't get that back, but we'll get America back. Baked Potato Jan 2020 #78

and i thought it was just me dweller Jan 2020 #79

I'll be 50 just before the election. Wawannabe Jan 2020 #81

"Non illegitimi carborundum" saidsimplesimon Jan 2020 #84

So sick of bad news. hamsterjill Jan 2020 #85

You've got a couple of years on me, trof, but I know where you're coming from... Hekate Jan 2020 #91

Yeah, I used to display the flag on 'patriotic' holidays. trof Jan 2020 #92