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ewagner

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27. Slowing down for a minute...

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

Jan 2020

There is absolutely no evidence that Hyde has any connections to people in Ukraine...

The odds that he is a lone "nut case" are very high.

What is absolutely bizarre is that Rudy, Parnas and even Trump seemed to take his word that surveillance was taking place and the his "people" were inside some sort of security force (Ukrainian, Private, U.S. ???) The fact that Guilliani, Parnas and Trump took this guy's tweets and emails as evidence without any kind of vetting shows just how amateurish and simplistic this whole operation was.

'There is no connection that has been pro-offered as a reasonable theory.

Additionally, we know NOTHING, ZERO, ZIP, NADA about this guy's background or how he make/made a living before and during his run for Congress.

I'm not going to go off the deep end until I see some reasonable explanation as to just "how, who and where" this guy got connections into the Ukraine.

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