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In reply to the discussion: ******* Impeachment Live Thread 1 - 1/25 ******* [View all]karynnj
(59,475 posts)112. That the EU as well as the US helps Ukraine
They are claiming that we did more on the sanctions. In the Obama years, it WAS Obama, Biden and Kerry who fought for strong sanctions that were harder for our allies than us because they have more trade - especially fuel - from Russia.
However, Trump ignored Congress when it added sanctions on Russia in 2017 and was against them when they passed both houses of Congress. To have the chutzpah to argue that they did more on sanctions than EU is absolutely disingenuous.
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Ditto... I am having trouble even thinking about watching... I'll read the threads for awhile
hlthe2b
Jan 2020
#17
Cippy wants to frame this as an ALT-evidence defense AND how dangerous the House is
ancianita
Jan 2020
#9
The only way to smash this drumbeat claim for the next 10 months is make it part of elevator pitch
ancianita
Jan 2020
#34
Agreed totally! Will try to listen on the radio and contribute what I can n/t
DonaldsRump
Jan 2020
#114
The radio's a great way to filter out histrionics, but it also deprives one of body/facial language.
ancianita
Jan 2020
#117
I'm just curious to find out just what it takes to buy the soul of a Republican Senator
Arkansas Granny
Jan 2020
#41
And they certainly don't want to hear that they're cowering cowards either.
dem4decades
Jan 2020
#79
+1, the judicial system is lacking on this issue. It shouldn't take 123432 years to get a ruling ...
uponit7771
Jan 2020
#48
lol ... they gonna show Wonderful World Of Gumball next ?! Cause we can't tell that's a cartoon 🙄🙄
uponit7771
Jan 2020
#42
The full breadth and scope of this argument will be behind the next 10 months of Republican message
ancianita
Jan 2020
#45
The first two speakers have spoken of the REAL TRANSCRIPT -- but they NEVER gave us a transcript
karynnj
Jan 2020
#46
If they have a tape, they do - they seem to prefer having their version CALLED a transcript
karynnj
Jan 2020
#100
They have both the secret server and original transcript in Russian control.
ancianita
Jan 2020
#115
So it's all about "TRANSCRIPT TRANSCRIPT TRANSCRIPT", which is a COMPLETE lie,
bullwinkle428
Jan 2020
#50
If anyone is using that phrase as part of a drinking game, I hope the ambulance is
bullwinkle428
Jan 2020
#70
I hear you. They've got alt-science and alt-reality and are ready to go all in on the 17th Century.
ancianita
Jan 2020
#96
They disagree.They own "alt-intelligence."Our labels for them roll off authoritarian followers' back
ancianita
Jan 2020
#107
It'll take 1,000s of lawyers' joint deposition to disprove this to millions of this "ALT" mentality
ancianita
Jan 2020
#113
+1, they aren't even trying ... f ck it ... they might as well read all of Trumps tweets that would
uponit7771
Jan 2020
#65
So this is a bunch of Trump talking points that they add details to?! Might as well showed Gumball !
uponit7771
Jan 2020
#61
Whoa. Is some lying crap: tRump didn't do an unprecedented thing declassifying the call
Mersky
Jan 2020
#71
So they are going to insist that the transcript deals with corruption even though corruption was
Arkansas Granny
Jan 2020
#75
What a bunch of BS - trying to claim that the conversation of 7/25 w/ Zelensky about
Pachamama
Jan 2020
#87
Call your senators and tell them you know how false/insulting the republican defense is this morning
Mersky
Jan 2020
#89
Now 53 traitorous self serving assholes are staying in their seats listening and taking notes
Pachamama
Jan 2020
#110
What does that mean? The Democrats are based on fact, not so much with the Republicans.
dem4decades
Jan 2020
#166
At 5 minutes in my blood was already at the boiling point but I will listen to all of their
in2herbs
Jan 2020
#108
Okay. Hold it. They're using the "hearsay/no facts" testimonies from Schiff's hearings???
underpants
Jan 2020
#116
Power & deals for them, hearsay for Americans. "What you are seeing and reading is not what's happen
ancianita
Jan 2020
#138
Who was he talking about? I heard Laura Crap, then I heard Laura Cooper a little further
Mersky
Jan 2020
#137
+1, they might as well just read Trump tweets ... they make more sense and that says something
uponit7771
Jan 2020
#142
He's done his completely offtopic nonsenical argument - now to Pat Philbin
BumRushDaShow
Jan 2020
#157