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In reply to the discussion: John Roberts comes face to face with the mess he made [View all]ancianita
(43,322 posts)16. Almost all Americans don't know the mess John Roberts made. They think it's about this trial. NO.
"John-the-Pirate" Roberts made this mess back in 2000 in Gore v Bush.
Flown in by the two Bush brothers' bad boys, Roberts literally TRAINED the Bush legal team to BEG SCOTUS to override the Supreme Court of Florida ruling to have a complete state recount.
John Roberts knew that if they used the arguments he trained them to use, that Rehnquist and Sandra Day O'Connor -- enraged Federalist Society conservatives -- would chomp at the chance to keep the pro-Bush count as it was.
And so they did. They OVERRULED A STATE SUPREME COURT. But it was a split.
BUT. When the real vote count continued, and it was found that AFTER THE SCOTUS INTERFERENCE WITH THE FLORIDA COUNT, THAT GORE ACTUALLY DID WIN.
Bush, once inaugurated, rewarded John Roberts by
a) nominating him to the Supreme Court, and
b) making him Chief Justice.
If John Roberts, Jeb Bush and GWBush had respected Florida's Supreme Court ruling, we wouldn't be going through this today.
We'd also be ahead of the climate crisis with an already established green new deal; we'd have clean energy utilities; there would have been NO 9/11 and bank bailouts; and there would be so many other good things that would make all Americans healthier and economically well off. Plus high speed rail.
John Roberts -- sitting there in all his fake humility that covers his shame, has made that mess.
Every single American should know what he did.
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he's a corporate hack but citizens united is a distraction from a greater problem
certainot
Jan 2020
#40
He lives in a bubble. He would have no reason to care about the day to day mess the rest of us face.
usaf-vet
Jan 2020
#30
at $1000 /per hr talk radio is worth $5 bil/year, and largely why this shit got passed
certainot
Jan 2020
#41
Soros just gave a billion dollars to fund universities to "stop drift towards authoritarianism."
CrispyQ
Jan 2020
#42
No, he's like James Comey; still rationalizing it to himself but wont admit any wrong doing
uponit7771
Jan 2020
#39
There were plenty of D congresspersons who spoke about the "unintended consequences" in
in2herbs
Jan 2020
#8
I think they anticipated the possibility of a corrupt or unsuitable president,
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2020
#36
It appears that JR has serious, difficult, personal conflicts: keeping personal distance,
empedocles
Jan 2020
#9
He and Russian Repug SCOTUS oligarchs are in the process of shredding our constitution - on purpose.
lark
Jan 2020
#12
It's so hard to fathom how America surrendered to the blithering idiot.
world wide wally
Jan 2020
#14
Almost all Americans don't know the mess John Roberts made. They think it's about this trial. NO.
ancianita
Jan 2020
#16
Doesn't matter. He was material cause of the legal success of the Bush boyz who couldn't have done
ancianita
Jan 2020
#21
I wonder if Roberts realizes he is presiding over what could be the beginning of the end
patphil
Jan 2020
#43