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51. but they did,
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:58 PM
Jan 2020

when you read the Federalist Papers (FP) & more importantly the Anti-Federalist Papers (AFP) along with the constitutional convention debate (CCD) notes it is clear Mr. Trump was exactly what SOME of the framers feared.

Cato V, an AFP, directly predicts a Trump presidency. It points to the flaws of the proposed Constitution but also human nature.

during the CCD, on June 1st, Mr. Edmund Randolph, "strenuously opposed a unity in the Executive magistracy. He regarded it as the fetus of monarchy."

and while populism wasn't quite a robust concept back in the 1700's many framers still feared the power of a direct democracy pertaining to the election of the president, on July 17, the CCD was focused on the election of the executive. George Mason was opposed to a popular vote, "He conceived it would be as unnatural to refer the choice of a proper character for chief Magistrate to the people, as it would, to refer a trial of colours to a blind man." that's right Mason said, letting the people vote for president would be like letting a blind man vote on colors.


https://www.constitution.org/afp/cato_05.htm

http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1786-1800/the-anti-federalist-papers/debate-of-executive-power-(june-1).php

http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1786-1800/the-anti-federalist-papers/election-and-term-of-office-of-the-national-executive-(july-17-19).php

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Do you think CJR even recognizes this? MontanaMama Jan 2020 #1
Right wingers see only what they want to see. Mickju Jan 2020 #3
no. but even if he did I doubt he would care. rurallib Jan 2020 #5
Corporate America Is Kicking Ass DanieRains Jan 2020 #24
he's a corporate hack but citizens united is a distraction from a greater problem certainot Jan 2020 #40
Once again, right as usual. Ligyron Jan 2020 #48
He lives in a bubble. He would have no reason to care about the day to day mess the rest of us face. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #30
at $1000 /per hr talk radio is worth $5 bil/year, and largely why this shit got passed certainot Jan 2020 #41
Soros just gave a billion dollars to fund universities to "stop drift towards authoritarianism." CrispyQ Jan 2020 #42
it's like studying fish without the water - can't identify the real problem certainot Jan 2020 #45
No, he's like James Comey; still rationalizing it to himself but wont admit any wrong doing uponit7771 Jan 2020 #39
Yeah, sadly, I tend to think he doesn't recognize the damage he's done. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #53
Wow. tavernier Jan 2020 #2
MUST READ malaise Jan 2020 #4
I was saying the same to a colleague the other day nuxvomica Jan 2020 #6
Interesting analysis. There are always unintended consequences, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #7
There were plenty of D congresspersons who spoke about the "unintended consequences" in in2herbs Jan 2020 #8
Your last sentence said it all Boomerproud Jan 2020 #10
True, but I don't think anybody expected the likes of Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #11
The founders expected the likes of Trump MoonlitKnight Jan 2020 #35
I think they anticipated the possibility of a corrupt or unsuitable president, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #36
but they did, material_highlighter Jan 2020 #51
The only unintended consequence was who would be best able... JHB Jan 2020 #28
"consequence of letting unaccountable money into elections." TryLogic Jan 2020 #15
It appears that JR has serious, difficult, personal conflicts: keeping personal distance, empedocles Jan 2020 #9
He and Russian Repug SCOTUS oligarchs are in the process of shredding our constitution - on purpose. lark Jan 2020 #12
yes, material_highlighter Jan 2020 #52
Ding, ding, ding. lark Jan 2020 #55
Absolutely true. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #13
It's so hard to fathom how America surrendered to the blithering idiot. world wide wally Jan 2020 #14
The Tangerine Taint Tumor is a trailing indicator. Mopar151 Jan 2020 #25
Almost all Americans don't know the mess John Roberts made. They think it's about this trial. NO. ancianita Jan 2020 #16
roberts wasn't on scotus... dajoki Jan 2020 #18
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This is where we've been heading... dajoki Jan 2020 #33
This should be an OP malaise Jan 2020 #19
Okay. I'll give it a twirl. ancianita Jan 2020 #22
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K&R. Sadly, most of Robert's cats can't be put back in the bag. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #17
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Corruption gone wild!!! moondust Jan 2020 #27
Obama called it during the state of the union, remember? shockey80 Jan 2020 #29
Just what Roberts intended. zentrum Jan 2020 #31
The author is Dana Milbank. nt Ilsa Jan 2020 #32
Indeed. calimary Jan 2020 #37
Roberts sees this not as a mess, but of victory. Politicub Jan 2020 #38
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