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Grammy23

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19. Seems like every day we wake up to a Fresh New Hell.

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:21 AM

Feb 2020

We are told that up is down. Black is white. Just deal with it and shut up. We watch the Democrats do a hellava job trying to present facts and evidence with facts and evidence being withheld. And STILL, they did an amazing job of burying tRump with what he did. The Republican response was to casually walk away saying No Big Deal.

I just don’t even know what to say any more. It gets harder and harder to believe that truth will win out, that right will prevail. Moving out of this stinker of a place gets more appealing by the day. But where? The unrest and upheaval is everywhere.

It feels like we’re in the middle of a novel that promises a climactic end. So many possibilities. I still cling to this idea that our Constitution will save us, even knowing we have people actively working to stop that from happening.

I’m tired of the drama and uncertainty and I know that is what tRump, Putin and others are counting on. They are hoping more and more of us will just relent and stop fighting. I am a stubborn cuss, so for now they won’t make me knuckle under. But damn it....it is hard. My dad, who died in 1967, is spinning in his grave. 😢

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Gallup Poll has Trump at 49%. [View all] SamKnause Feb 2020 OP

I heard that. kentuck Feb 2020 #1

Fuck if I know. SamKnause Feb 2020 #3

I can't believe it Johonny Feb 2020 #6

Are you sure? Arthur_Frain Feb 2020 #25

No, you are wrong Johonny Feb 2020 #40

"He's an asshole, but he's OUR asshole," is their "logic." SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #86

+1, uponit7771 Feb 2020 #10

Gallup always leans conservative. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #57

Temporary bump scarytomcat Feb 2020 #112

WTF? lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #2

What the fuck indeed. SamKnause Feb 2020 #4

Gallup? Put him down at a 45 at most. underpants Feb 2020 #5

Correct. Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #17

Gallup provides that information Locutusofborg Feb 2020 #50

That is the problem... LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #77

Maybe. Or maybe lots of people just aren't talking to the pollsters struggle4progress Feb 2020 #7

I don't talk to pollsters, I don't answer stuff on a cold call, unless it's the RNC. 😂 TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #96

His approval rating? So what? marmar Feb 2020 #8

49% brain function? pwb Feb 2020 #9

49% all-fat hamberders TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #20

Gallup is a mere "B" rated pollster, says FiveThirtyEight. JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #11

The media should identify that to the viewers. But of course they don't. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #79

Beware of the horse race produce by corporate media . .. Iliyah Feb 2020 #12

+1000 kentuck Feb 2020 #14

Indeed JDC Feb 2020 #16

Indeed! n/t Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #30

The poll breakdown: Hawaii Hiker Feb 2020 #13

Seriously? Is there a link? lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #23

If link doesn't work i lifted the text Hawaii Hiker Feb 2020 #26

Whoah! Thanks! So compared to the biased sample, Turd is under-performing by 5%. lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #31

people with LANDLINES Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #58

I am now officialy an old fart lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #59

yes, but that's how Gallup polls. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #67

Same kind of polling that predicted Alf Landon easily winning the 1936 election Wednesdays Feb 2020 #89

There are 2 very different question lines grantcart Feb 2020 #99

The Republican Party is shrinking. I wonder if it is properly weighted. boston bean Feb 2020 #48

I don't see it as being weighted when they had more Republican respondents than Democratic. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #82

that disparity is handled by weighting the results to match general population 0rganism Feb 2020 #64

I noted that too along with different margin of error for each. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #81

This is basically right-wing propaganda. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #15

If the economy doesn't crash, Trump will be reelected. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #18

Most polls show the economy doesn't really help him..... marmar Feb 2020 #21

"The Economy" means one thing to billionaires and corporations; a whole other thing... lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #24

But if the corporate media plays up the economy TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #60

If you noticed the Trump Tax Hike in your 1040 last year; if you can't export your soybeans anymore; lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #83

I'm afraid that's wishful thinking FBaggins Feb 2020 #92

This chart from the Federal Reserve shows that wages have suddenly stopped growing lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #93

No it doesn't FBaggins Feb 2020 #100

I hear your concern lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #102

I see it now (PC)... I'm afraid you're reading it wrong FBaggins Feb 2020 #109

People at minimum wage benefited mainly from state initiatives to raise minimum. lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #111

Not statistically significant FBaggins Feb 2020 #113

He was disliked in 2016. tman Feb 2020 #29

But so was Hillary. marmar Feb 2020 #37

Majority of Americans want Trump convicted rockfordfile Feb 2020 #62

People vote for candidates they don't like all the time. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #73

The economy is helping him, tho... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #103

That's if we truly have an election, we don't Trump has already committed to cheating uponit7771 Feb 2020 #22

How can anybody say that he will be re- elected Butterflylady Feb 2020 #53

Because no matter who our nominee is, it's hard to beat an incumbent in a strong economy. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #74

You are among the very few who grasps the big picture reality Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #87

Seems like every day we wake up to a Fresh New Hell. Grammy23 Feb 2020 #19

That's what it feels like.. whathehell Feb 2020 #51

When u poll more Deplorables than reality based NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #27

No one poll is dispositive. Every poll is a data point. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #28

We are up sh'ts creek UNLESS we Democrats choose the most democratisphere Feb 2020 #32

I couldn't agree more! If we don't choose Biden, She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #66

Polls are used for propaganda, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #33

FiveThirtyEight has 43.6 Approve, 52.1 Disapprove nt Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #34

Average the polls folks. Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #35

You're 100% right but it's unsettling to see Trump doing well in a respected poll. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #39

Sure I get it. Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #44

I am trying to adopt a Zen like approach to politics ... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #47

Gallup is not a respected pollster rockfordfile Feb 2020 #63

Perception is reality. The media treats them/sees them as a respected pollster. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #65

Chill! It's only February! Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #36

Nope. Gallup skews way right. Claritie Pixie Feb 2020 #38

I no longer believe any of these polls. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #41

Hmmm.... MoMof6 Feb 2020 #42

Nine months out and some defeatists are already saying that All Is Lost Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #45

+1000 marmar Feb 2020 #46

Individual polls don't matter. Aggregates do. octoberlib Feb 2020 #71

Was does Rasmussen say? denem Feb 2020 #43

Gish Gallop? GeorgeGist Feb 2020 #49

The great danger is people have just gotten used to Trump's malignant behavior andym Feb 2020 #52

The nightmare scenario and easy to anticipate Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #88

In the last 20 years Gallup has been running Still Sensible Feb 2020 #54

Gallup always leans conservative. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #55

Gosh! Someone Predicted This And Was Soundly Thrashed Here. jayfish Feb 2020 #56

But this poll is fake videohead5 Feb 2020 #70

Aggregate has him below 44% Bradical79 Feb 2020 #61

+1 sandensea Feb 2020 #76

I won't be included in any polls, because I no longer answer my phone. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #68

Same here. How do they even get people with cell phones to answer? octoberlib Feb 2020 #72

The poll is bunk videohead5 Feb 2020 #69

538 has his poll-of-polls approval at 43.6% sandensea Feb 2020 #75

+1, Gallops polling is really old relatively speaking ... this looks like a meme push uponit7771 Feb 2020 #95

Good point. sandensea Feb 2020 #106

We need to quote his views on cutting Social Security Generic Other Feb 2020 #78

Our party desperately needs to focus on effective messaging. JudyM Feb 2020 #97

I am maintaining a brainstorming thread Generic Other Feb 2020 #107

That's great! JudyM Feb 2020 #108

people bdamomma Feb 2020 #80

I don't trust polls JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #84

America is a lost cause. OliverQ Feb 2020 #85

It ain't over till it's over Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #91

That number is softer than a marshmallow fluff sandwich on Wonder Bread. Aristus Feb 2020 #90

*** GALLOP POLLING IS OLD *** Recent Polling has him in the low 40s uponit7771 Feb 2020 #94

Fake news. Other polls have him much lower. Greybnk48 Feb 2020 #98

if 2016 taught us anything DonCoquixote Feb 2020 #101

Relax. Look at 538 for a more informative picture HelpImSurrounded Feb 2020 #104

Excellent link for perspective on this - Thank you! nt crickets Feb 2020 #105

Polls said Hillary was going to win too. I don't buy it this far out. NCLefty Feb 2020 #110

PRIMAL FUCKING SCREAM Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #114