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Miguelito Loveless

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44. It is on point

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:43 AM

Feb 2020

The SCOTUS overturned the will of the people in DIRECT contravention of their own prior rulings.

Even if the SCOTUS were to rule against Trump (they won't, Roberts demonstrated that during the impeachment), he wouldl simply ignore it, as he has every other law since he assumed power. There is no crime that the GOP will not back at this point, including formal establishment of his de facto dictatorship.

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What happens November 4th? Even if it's a blowout in favor of Dems, will he leave? [View all] Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP

No. Iliyah Feb 2020 #1

Agreed Miguelito Loveless Feb 2020 #27

When drumpf loses, it will be scorched earth with total chaos democratisphere Feb 2020 #2

Yes, to drag his fat, orange ass out. brush Feb 2020 #29

I read that is what Hitler did from his bunker. EndlessWire Feb 2020 #70

However it ends depends on him. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #3

He'll have to leave. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2020 #4

You're predicating that on a functioning DOJ and Senate Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #10

The House certifies the Electoral College- Dems Control the House Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #60

This is what? Like the 3rd or 4th thread dware Feb 2020 #62

What is the CT section? EndlessWire Feb 2020 #73

Conspiracy Theory. dware Feb 2020 #82

Hope you're right Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #63

He'll whine and then demand that Bettie Feb 2020 #5

The Constitution doesn't give SCOTUS that authority struggle4progress Feb 2020 #15

Law doesn't matter Miguelito Loveless Feb 2020 #28

Bush v Gore is not on-point struggle4progress Feb 2020 #39

It is on point Miguelito Loveless Feb 2020 #44

Yeah....you'd think that would matter Bettie Feb 2020 #46

If he loses, he has no power at 12:01 pm on January 20, 2021. He can be escorted from office. LonePirate Feb 2020 #6

By Barr's DoJ? Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #12

Barr has no authority then, the new President does. DOJ is still an executive department. LonePirate Feb 2020 #14

Not until January 20, 2 1/2 months after the election. Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #17

And we have known that since 11/9/2016. LonePirate Feb 2020 #18

The DoJ and Senate, two necessary components of a power transfer, are compromised Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #30

How are the DOJ and the Senate necessary components to the power transfer? dumbcat Feb 2020 #84

"And I saw, and behold, a pale horse...." lastlib Feb 2020 #37

That's a very different question, Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #71

"He can be escorted from office" mitch96 Feb 2020 #52

On the inauguration of the new President, dware Feb 2020 #56

I'm of the hope for the best, expect the worse crowd... works for me every time... YMMV... nt mitch96 Feb 2020 #58

Agree, IF he loses he will not stay in power NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #79

He will be escorted out. Once new President sworn in. FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #7

That would fall on the DoJ. Barr's DoJ. n/t Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #13

US Marshalls Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #65

The Secret Service does not fall under the DoJ. dumbcat Feb 2020 #85

Correct. dware Feb 2020 #86

It would be US Marshalls if anyone were to forcibly remove him, not the Secret Service. n/t Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #89

The Secret Service will indirectly help them, dware Feb 2020 #93

The Secret Service won't be the agency that ousts him Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #88

On on the day of the inauguration, dware Feb 2020 #90

So, do you think he will simply roll over after losing on 11/3? Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #92

It doesn't matter if he rollls over or not, dware Feb 2020 #94

May not "have" to be US Marshalls dumbcat Feb 2020 #91

Myself and about a million of my friends will be there to DRAG him out. lastlib Feb 2020 #38

Yep. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2020 #74

They Should Strap Him To A Roller Board, Hannibal Lecter Style nt smb Feb 2020 #8

If Trump is not re-elected, he will use the lame duck period to wreck as much damage as possible dlk Feb 2020 #9

He probably has a doomsday plan for when he loses (I don't think he will lose) Coleman Feb 2020 #11

Wouldn't the secret service remove him like they would any other intruder? nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #16

I'm beginning to worry that we'll have an election at all spinbaby Feb 2020 #19

Elections are state run. No federal power. bearsfootball516 Feb 2020 #54

It's amazing how many people don't know that. dware Feb 2020 #59

A little thing like that won't stop them spinbaby Feb 2020 #66

I would personally *WALK* to D.C. Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #20

They could declare some sort of faux emergency and cordon off the WH for blocks Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #21

So we'd just have to out-think them, then Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #22

Our only hope against a powerful, but stupid POTUS Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #24

Numbers would be in our favor..... lastlib Feb 2020 #80

as I have said before... Javaman Feb 2020 #23

Before the impeachment, I still had faith in the mechanisms of our Govt Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #26

He won't go quietly... Rider3 Feb 2020 #25

I predict that he'll leave office but will lead a worldwide fascist movement that will lead Poiuyt Feb 2020 #31

There's always hope that 2naSalit Feb 2020 #32

Watch how the Electoral College votes get certified. vlyons Feb 2020 #33

Between the election and the next swearing in vlyons Feb 2020 #34

Personally, I'm praying he'll stroke out before then Cairycat Feb 2020 #35

Between you and I... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #42

Our focus needs to be voter suppression flamingdem Feb 2020 #36

+1 BeckyDem Feb 2020 #41

We should definitely continue with "get out the vote" efforts and fight suppression Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #43

I hope the DNC is gaming out all scenarios flamingdem Feb 2020 #45

I want us to win the senate so bad. Republicans MUST be crushed out. BeckyDem Feb 2020 #40

This falls under the category of "It's good to keep in mind, but...." Arthur_Frain Feb 2020 #47

We have to flood the streets. Nothing less will do. (eom) Malmsy Feb 2020 #48

I'm not smart enough to reasonably predict ooky Feb 2020 #49

He'll definitely try to get out of the country once he's actually out Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #50

Yes and those generals will help escort him out on January 21st kimbutgar Feb 2020 #51

Of course he will leave mokawanis Feb 2020 #53

He won't concede. After the expected conspiracy theories about LeftinOH Feb 2020 #55

Your's is the most likely scenario. dware Feb 2020 #61

That wouldn't surprise me a bit. The rest of this "what if he won't leave" stuff is just silly. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2020 #81

Yes, he will leave, dware Feb 2020 #57

He's also going to pardon people who have no business being pardoned a la Matt Bevin nt maryellen99 Feb 2020 #64

If he does bug out I think he will go to a tRump hotel in a country that does not have extradition.. mitch96 Feb 2020 #67

We have to EndlessWire Feb 2020 #68

He'll demand recount after recount kskiska Feb 2020 #69

Catch him at the golf course and change the locks. kentuck Feb 2020 #72

I sincerely hope the orange hog refuses. BigDemVoter Feb 2020 #75

No Way, did you read Rick Wilson's book? He covers this scenario dewsgirl Feb 2020 #76

after today's news in the stone case... nope he ain't leaving. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #77

Hell, I'm afraid he will cancel the election! Chemisse Feb 2020 #78

He can't cancel the elections, dware Feb 2020 #83

That is reassuring. n/t Chemisse Feb 2020 #95

Just tell Trump that at his last physical he was hypnotized. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #87