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ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:36 AM Feb 2020

It's pretty clear from what we know about coronavirus that there will be no protecting against it [View all]

I think the most likely scenario we are facing is in about two years from now, everyone will have had it and the people who survive it will still be around.

I say this because of things like

1. people can be contagious for over a week without showing any symptoms
2. people can have the same viral load whether they are showing symptoms or not
3. testing for the virus is in early stages
4. china doesn't seem serious about preventing its spread (the CDC and WHO just were allowed into China recently)
5. it is a kind of virus that is prone to mutation and resistant to having vaccines made against it

From what I can tell, the virus kills by infecting the lungs which are then also susceptible to bacterial pneumonia, which brings on death. Because the Dump administration is completely lying down on the job, we will have to prepare and battle this virus at the local/state level.

We should encourage our local governments to stockpile anti-pneumonia antibiotics, anti-virals, and other measures that may make the difference to people with lung infection. We should assume we will all have this virus at some point, and think about ways to deal with it at home or in local gathering places if our hospitals are overrun.

Time to protect ourselves if Trump's government won't do it.

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I just heard from someone at work today that we get about 95% of our antibiotics from China. smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Feb 2020 #17
how quickly will the homeless, immigrants, unemployed etc etc etc rampartc Feb 2020 #2
My clinic door is open to the homeless, immigrants, and the unemployed. Aristus Feb 2020 #13
thank you for this ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #19
The point being that people in dire straits.... Girard442 Feb 2020 #26
that is what i was trying to say rampartc Feb 2020 #30
Thank you. n/t area51 Feb 2020 #22
thank you very much aristus rampartc Feb 2020 #29
Thank you, Aristus. I hope the emergency rooms around the U.S. are.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2020 #38
I had to take my 83 year old husband to ER last December LibinMo Feb 2020 #49
K&R. My thoughts, exactly. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2020 #50
Did you see the packed hospital corridors in China ? Not good I understand they were point zero lunasun Feb 2020 #52
That's wonderful. mahina Feb 2020 #51
I think you are truly exceptional, seriously. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #59
That's very nice, thank you. Aristus Feb 2020 #60
I have been reading your posts for years, I am happy you dewsgirl Feb 2020 #61
My posts don't always convey the rewarding aspects of my job. Aristus Feb 2020 #62
I know, I remember one specifically about a man I believe using dewsgirl Feb 2020 #63
Well, I didn't want him using anywhere, but definitely not in front of the clinic. Aristus Feb 2020 #65
Aristus, you are the real deal. hamsterjill Feb 2020 #64
Perfect storm cherryinpa Feb 2020 #3
He's not going to do anything to stop it maryellen99 Feb 2020 #4
wait til he finds out how much dead workers and consumers hurt the economy ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #6
probably hope hicks... Javaman Feb 2020 #16
In 2018 he fired the entire chain of command of the agency that deals with pandemics. nt tblue37 Feb 2020 #28
I guess its time to hire them back marlakay Feb 2020 #45
I'm sure that they are long gone, hired by private industry at probably better pay than the ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #55
Andromeda Strain option: Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #5
that scenario works in situations where the virus kills the host too quickly to pass on ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #7
You're right. It will take a tremendous amount of sleuthing to find the Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #8
Please go to the link posted here*: I think there's more hope than you're offering. abqtommy Feb 2020 #9
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #10
OMG cherryinpa Feb 2020 #11
Factcheck your "bioweapon" claim Maeve Feb 2020 #15
Yeah. The coronavirus is pretty common in the environment defacto7 Feb 2020 #35
I'm wondering whether the pneumonia shot I got will Raven Feb 2020 #12
Prob need more cherryinpa Feb 2020 #14
please, reduce the amount of woo ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2020 #36
It likely won't CountAllVotes Feb 2020 #18
It won't protect against the virus csziggy Feb 2020 #20
Probably not the virus itself but might ward off opportunistic infections. Girard442 Feb 2020 #27
It may help if you have secondary bacterial pneumonia. roamer65 Feb 2020 #41
I heard it won't marlakay Feb 2020 #46
"the most likely scenario we are facing is in about two years from now, everyone will have had it" LexVegas Feb 2020 #23
Thank you. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #25
A vaccine expected early 2021. defacto7 Feb 2020 #32
Also persists on surfaces for up to a week Amishman Feb 2020 #24
The vaccine is still on the track but not expected defacto7 Feb 2020 #31
So far I think that fatality rate is about 2.6%. That might not seem like a lot but it is. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #33
Just for the record, no pandemic has ever reached everyone. defacto7 Feb 2020 #34
I'm advocating preparation and not panic ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #37
I'm all for that. defacto7 Feb 2020 #39
The 1918-1920 flu virus infected around 33 pct of the world's human population. roamer65 Feb 2020 #42
I'm glad you have an answer. defacto7 Feb 2020 #43
I think those folks underestimate how much quarantining will suppress infection rates. roamer65 Feb 2020 #44
I like your optimism on this ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #58
That was before travel was as marlakay Feb 2020 #47
The initial form of pneumonia is viral, not bacterial. roamer65 Feb 2020 #40
True, but most of the deaths are probably from secondary infections. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #48
I'm fairly sure that is what I wrote ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #56
Flu masks are sold out everywhere BUT.... Kablooie Feb 2020 #53
remember, masks are only really useful when YOU are sick, and trying to protect others ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #57
trump will just use it duforsure Feb 2020 #54
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