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In reply to the discussion: God, I am so tired of the confusion/discussion/obfuscation/ignorance about "socialism". [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)24. Stand by. You ain't seen nuthin' yet.
If you're explaining and justifying, you're losing. At this late date... none of this will matter. Our country will not elect a Socialist to be its President.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287570879
The constant cries about how being a Democratic socialist doesnt mean he IS a communist-type socialist is a moot point. Unless you plan to go door-to-door and explain the difference to all of the voters who equate socialism with USSR communism, you are not going to change their minds. They hear socialist, and they attach their own (albeit ill-informed) meaning to the term and its NOT the style of government they will vote for.
Ive seen this repeatedly on the sites I participate in where both Dems and Repubs post: I dont want Trump to be re-elected but Ill be damned if Ill vote for a communist. You can shout all you want about how these people dont understand what socialism is, or how what Bernie is proposing isnt socialism as they perceive it. But people vote according to what they believe, and not according to what you think they should believe.
The constant cries about how being a Democratic socialist doesnt mean he IS a communist-type socialist is a moot point. Unless you plan to go door-to-door and explain the difference to all of the voters who equate socialism with USSR communism, you are not going to change their minds. They hear socialist, and they attach their own (albeit ill-informed) meaning to the term and its NOT the style of government they will vote for.
Ive seen this repeatedly on the sites I participate in where both Dems and Repubs post: I dont want Trump to be re-elected but Ill be damned if Ill vote for a communist. You can shout all you want about how these people dont understand what socialism is, or how what Bernie is proposing isnt socialism as they perceive it. But people vote according to what they believe, and not according to what you think they should believe.
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God, I am so tired of the confusion/discussion/obfuscation/ignorance about "socialism". [View all]
ProfessorPlum
Feb 2020
OP
Bernie should launch a campaign to educate the masses on proper terminology and usage
dalton99a
Feb 2020
#2
Maybe it would be easier if the largest democratic socialist organization in the US would go away?
Sancho
Feb 2020
#5
I fear you're wasting your time, when Bernie praises Fidel Castro and Soviet subways it just ...
Baclava
Feb 2020
#14
when he praises soviet subways and then condemns soviet human rights violations
ProfessorPlum
Feb 2020
#15
The GOP attacked FDR and the New Deal we 'socialism'. They attacked LBJ and Medicare
pampango
Feb 2020
#20
So why does Bernie insist on sticking with the brand, when he knows he doesn't accept
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#28
Socialists have been involved in a lot of great things in this country. Farmers being able to
brewens
Feb 2020
#35
Outside of Sanders, AOC and their friends, who else uses the second definition?
brooklynite
Feb 2020
#37