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Laelth

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67. Is it possible that Italy is rationing its respirators?

Mon Mar 16, 2020, 07:19 PM

Mar 2020

Is it possible that Italy has decided that it’s best to allocate its respirators to the young and not the old? Might that account for the higher mortality rates among the elderly in Italy, at least?

We’re eleven days behind Italy in the progression of this pandemic, but we’re going to have to ration respirators here, too. My suspicion is that the rationing, here, will have more to do with the patient’s wealth, as opposed to age. But, we shall see what we see.

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THE CYTOKINE STORM (Possibly millions of young, healthy people WILL DIE from COVID-19) [View all] Laelth Mar 2020 OP

Please share and feel free to re-post. Laelth Mar 2020 #1

I'm being rude and posting this up high because of all the posts doubting you renate Mar 2020 #86

Not rude at all. Thank you. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #87

Lancet is difficult to link. Try this one ✨❤️✨ OhNo-Really Mar 2020 #89

Thanks!!! renate Mar 2020 #90

you can use %28 and %29 for parentheses ... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #94

There's hope for an anti-cytokine storm drug (an immune-system suppressant). Laelth Mar 2020 #97

K & R... dhill926 Mar 2020 #2

Thank you for the k&r. Laelth Mar 2020 #8

A 31 year old co-worker of my younger daughter tested positive and is now in a coma DFW Mar 2020 #3

Thank you, my friend. Laelth Mar 2020 #69

Can't reveal source, but NATO country has 4 twenty-somethings in ICU--self-medicated with Ibuprofen. TheBlackAdder Mar 2020 #73

My 38 yr old daughter bought a big bottle marlakay Mar 2020 #99

K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #4

Thank you. Laelth Mar 2020 #7

Spooky LaelthsDaughter Mar 2020 #5

Thank you for the kick, my daughter. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Akacia Mar 2020 #6

Scishow covered this. They say it nothing to do with the strong immune systems. Was because Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #9

Scientists at the National Institute of Health disagree octoberlib Mar 2020 #11

It's not showing up at all in the data for this virus. Not even close. Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #12

Agreed. I haven't been able to find any reputable corroboration for this theory. groundloop Mar 2020 #23

poor math enid602 Apr 2020 #101

Wish I could truly cilla4progress Mar 2020 #52

Organ failure has been mentioned in some of the COVID deaths. I bet this is exactly what's happening octoberlib Mar 2020 #10

Sadly, it seems likely. Laelth Mar 2020 #14

It's not considered a Flu strain though, right? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #44

It's not. It's a SARS virus. Laelth Mar 2020 #49

So, since this is different from wnylib Mar 2020 #75

The text blockquoted in the OP says that ... Laelth Mar 2020 #77

Yet nothing in the age statisics wnylib Mar 2020 #80

The virus will mutate. Laelth Mar 2020 #81

I did read the OP which focused wnylib Mar 2020 #83

I assumed that you did. Thank you. Laelth Mar 2020 #84

Bookmarked. cwydro Mar 2020 #13

Nothing in the data so far indicates that this is happening with this virus madville Mar 2020 #15

Agree. nt Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #16

There's anecdotal evidence that this disease is killing people ... Laelth Mar 2020 #17

the people who are young and die more likely have underlying health issues. Takket Mar 2020 #29

But what if they don't? Laelth Mar 2020 #85

There is zero anecdotal evidence of this obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #38

Zero anecdotal evidence? Laelth Mar 2020 #79

Agree gollygee Mar 2020 #21

Italy, France, and Spain have shut down all but essential commerce. Laelth Mar 2020 #55

Influenza cannot be extrapolated to coronavirus. McCamy Taylor Mar 2020 #18

Why not? Laelth Mar 2020 #19

If you had any knowledge at all you'd know you can't. Claritie Pixie Mar 2020 #30

Both can trigger a Cytokine Storm. That's my point. Laelth Mar 2020 #35

It may have shown up in the S. Korean data. The_jackalope Mar 2020 #20

Here's the article about it The_jackalope Mar 2020 #22

With a possible explanation for the difference: testing protocols The_jackalope Mar 2020 #24

That chart shows who's getting infected, NOT anything related to any "Cytokine Storm" groundloop Mar 2020 #25

Yes, it was an incorrect inference on my part. The_jackalope Mar 2020 #26

Yes, an important post. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2020 #27

Thank you. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #82

Huh? That cytokene storm was something that happened with the 1918 flu. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #28

I don't understand where you are coming from. Laelth Mar 2020 #34

Then you should be ashamed of ytourself for spreading misinformation obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #39

Don't you think a little fear is both rational and wise at this time? n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #71

This is an irresponsible post. No clinical evidence to back up your assertions. Claritie Pixie Mar 2020 #31

And what "assertions" are you talking about? Laelth Mar 2020 #33

Pixie is correct: your OP is not factual and is scare mongering obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #37

In what way is the OP "not factual"? Please explain. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #65

"Anecdotal evidence" sarisataka Mar 2020 #42

It is simply not true that COVID-19 is killing a disproportionate PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #61

Don't you think that the current numbers ... Laelth Mar 2020 #62

No. Older people are the ones dying from the start. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #63

Italy is definitely rationing ventilators. Laelth Mar 2020 #95

The rationing Italy is doing is affecting what's happening there PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #98

While a few healthy people who are not elderly have died, Chemisse Mar 2020 #32

. . and pregnant woman (in that pregnancy is not a comorbity) Strelnikov_ Mar 2020 #54

Except the data for covid-19 shows the exact oppsite -- delete this obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #36

I cant believe the nonsense I'm reading here daily. cwydro Mar 2020 #40

"Be careful" is BAD MEDICAL ADVICE? Laelth Mar 2020 #41

Posting that "possibly millions" of young healthy people will die is scaremongering. cwydro Mar 2020 #47

You're right. Laelth Mar 2020 #58

Again, please post links for young and healthy people dying from this disease. cwydro Mar 2020 #59

Here are three. Laelth Mar 2020 #60

Scaremongering? Laelth Mar 2020 #43

Agreed greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #46

Is it possible that Italy is rationing its respirators? Laelth Mar 2020 #67

Italy IS rationing care but... RealityChik Mar 2020 #74

Italy IS rationing ventilators, and they are doing so on the basis of age. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #96

Some love to see panic, and apparently want to stoke it. cwydro Mar 2020 #48

Thank you for the kick. Laelth Mar 2020 #64

+ 100% lunasun Apr 2020 #100

Deeply irresponsible headline greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #45

For goodness sakes! Laelth Mar 2020 #50

You're not being responsible greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #51

Well, you're right about that. Laelth Mar 2020 #56

Please post a link where it shows young, healthy people dying from this disease. cwydro Mar 2020 #57

Here are three. Laelth Mar 2020 #70

That's not fact... RealityChik Mar 2020 #92

Is this chart illness - cilla4progress Mar 2020 #53

I think it's deaths per 100,000 persons. n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #66

actual numbers do not support this theory garybeck Mar 2020 #72

Unlike 1918 we do have immunosuppressive marybourg Mar 2020 #76

And that's a good thing. Laelth Mar 2020 #78

k and r amuse bouche Mar 2020 #88

kick BeckyDem Mar 2020 #91

Meanwhile, yesterday on the news they still showed idiots doing normal spring break activities OnlinePoker Mar 2020 #93

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