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Ms. Toad

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61. Sweden is not playing with a full deck . . .
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 10:22 PM
Apr 2020

Or they have a secret stash of hospitals and equipment.

Given unlimited resources - I still think it is a bad idea, but perhaps defensible. Even with unlimited resources, people will die now who would not necessarily even catch the illness at all if we stretch it out long enough to find a vaccine.

And - no one has unlimited resources. The real threat here is the inabilty to keep people alive long enough to survive it because of limited resources if we all come down with it at once. This is especially true given how long it takes to recover and be able to be removed from the ventilator. Italy has had to choose who gets the ventilator. Without a mandatory stay home, stay healthy order I would not be surprised to see that hapen in Sweden as well.

As to the 1918 pandemic - influenza is different from COVID 19. Even if it is not precisely the same strain, we've all been exposed to close cousins of most of the flus. So there is some natural immunity to influenza viruses. That doesn't exist with COVID 19. So while there are a number of peopel with immunity aready to the flu + those who get it and act as barriers to create a natural slowing effect with the flu (even the 1918 one), there is no reservoir of immune people for COVID 19 - so we have to wait for people to get it and recover and become barricades for new transmissions. It's moving too fast and recovery takes too long for that to be an effective strategy.

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On what planet? n/t rzemanfl Apr 2020 #1
+1 orangecrush Apr 2020 #32
Governor Cuomo said New York is at the peek jimfields33 Apr 2020 #50
another dead cat bounce SoonerPride Apr 2020 #2
Another sucker rally customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #26
+1, a flat curve does nothing for the economy if the flat part is high uponit7771 Apr 2020 #40
The trend is already 2 weeks. How long do you want? Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #3
No no, I agree with you NewsCenter28 Apr 2020 #5
I heard it would hit 40000 by the time of the NFL opening kick. PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #10
Good One! ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #53
A flat curve helps the hospitals not the economy or normality uponit7771 Apr 2020 #41
Thanks for the daily numbers Ms. Toad rufus dog Apr 2020 #16
You're welcome - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #25
Social distancing is working. roamer65 Apr 2020 #17
You see that. The average trader on Wall Street reacts to politicians Blue_true Apr 2020 #19
I saw he was in the hospital Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #22
I read that British Intelligence believe that Chinese scientists in a lab Blue_true Apr 2020 #60
Sweden is not playing with a full deck . . . Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #61
The trend might be simply that a little bit more testing becomes available by the day, and Doodley Apr 2020 #33
Believe what you want. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #39
We have less than .5% testing rate per million in the US. Unless we're par with Germany, Hong Kong, uponit7771 Apr 2020 #49
I'm not a statistician but thucythucy Apr 2020 #56
i don't understand why that would spark a rally....... Takket Apr 2020 #4
Check out the tweet series by Bill Ackman linked to near middle of this article NewsCenter28 Apr 2020 #6
I Thought The Flattening Help Ease The Burden On Hospitals So They..... global1 Apr 2020 #7
That was my understanding as well. StarryNite Apr 2020 #11
It means it is spreading more slowly. Good news. triron Apr 2020 #12
Which means we have to stay in an indefinite stay-at-home mode, which will destroy small business. TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 #15
You touched on the button. Blue_true Apr 2020 #20
THIS !!!! People should be looking at bottoming out the infection rate to get back to normal uponit7771 Apr 2020 #42
Likely to hit the same total number - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #24
yes, part of what we are doing by staying home, is avoiding being a burden on hospital system Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #37
It's all about expectation of the future Steelrolled Apr 2020 #28
A flat curve helps the hospitals not the economy or normality. We're at Indefinite stay at home .. uponit7771 Apr 2020 #43
Beware of stats that come out over weekends. RandySF Apr 2020 #8
Massive?!? PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #9
knr triron Apr 2020 #13
This is a bull trap IMHO katusha Apr 2020 #14
Even if Obama were to magically be placed in charge, Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #23
i'm sorry, let me clarify katusha Apr 2020 #30
Agree - both as to Trump, and as to how scary the health care system overload is. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #31
+1, A flat curve helps the hospitals not the economy or normality uponit7771 Apr 2020 #44
This is the pump part of the pump & dump cycle... Hugin Apr 2020 #18
This is 100% true. Yavin4 Apr 2020 #29
Thanks, Yavin4. Hugin Apr 2020 #34
Investor Daily calls it dangerous grantcart Apr 2020 #21
There are a whole lot of unknowns in this pandemic... Hugin Apr 2020 #35
THIS !!!! We should...NOT ... look at ""the curve" in aggregate. uponit7771 Apr 2020 #45
buy buy buy buy buy!! CountAllVotes Apr 2020 #27
A flat curve helps the hospitals not the economy or normality uponit7771 Apr 2020 #46
good news. daily new cases plunged from 33K to 25K. For one day at least Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #36
Where? Nationwide? I don't see how that helps. Trump is right in that if Small Town Idaho has zero uponit7771 Apr 2020 #48
Same as last SUNDAY Roland99 Apr 2020 #55
yikes... the media is behaving this morning as if the worst is over Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #57
Flattening curve? WHERE? S. Korea? Bc I'm hearing the opposite here. As in it is imminent. Vivienne235729 Apr 2020 #38
+1, We should...NOT ... look at ""the curve" in aggregate. uponit7771 Apr 2020 #47
My crystal ball says Chainfire Apr 2020 #51
+1, can you imagine the reaction when Trump says 2 more weeks at the end of April? uponit7771 Apr 2020 #52
Predatory class salivating over possible monitary gains randr Apr 2020 #54
I'm not sure if the Dow can be trusted on this sort of thing... ck4829 Apr 2020 #58
lets wait for red states mshasta Apr 2020 #59
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