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Igel

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5. There aren't many more ways.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:37 PM
Apr 2020

It's a progression. You start with a bit of oxygen in a nose tube. Ramp that up. Blood-ox levels continue to drop, you move to face mask. Eventually the lungs aren't working well enough and blood oxygen levels fall to below 90% or so, and you intubate.

Many still don't reach the necessary blood oxygen levels even with intubation.

Not many easy alternatives. They can use a machine that draws blood, oxygenates it outside the body, and returns it, but those aren't the most common things on Earth and require close monitoring--meaning that they need additional staff.

This is where some of that Star Trek "tri-ox" or whatever would come in handy--one shot and your blood oxygen levels go up for a while. http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=3689


Intubation is sort of nasty, though. Paralyze the lungs (don't want competition--that could cause damage); intubate, this tube going down your throat with gag reflexes and all. Then if you get anxious or agitated (gee, ya think) you're sedated. And you might stay on that for weeks, with a 20% chance of being able to actually be free.

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No one knows Mosby Apr 2020 #1
Worse yet, serious problems tend to result post-ventilator. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2020 #2
It's called proning spinbaby Apr 2020 #17
Did she say how long/ how often to stay prone? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2020 #20
I'm sorry your son has it spinbaby Apr 2020 #22
I know the bed you mentioned. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2020 #23
Glad they're starting to change protocol pattyloutwo Apr 2020 #3
CPAP users often are asked to sleep on their stomachs Recursion Apr 2020 #11
I've never once heard that. NutmegYankee Apr 2020 #24
I have had overnight sleep tests twice. Both times they found I have sleep apnea, but tblue37 Apr 2020 #26
Makes sense from gravity. NutmegYankee Apr 2020 #27
a doctor on MSNBC a couple hours ago said the global literature shows 86% die after being intubated Celerity Apr 2020 #4
There aren't many more ways. Igel Apr 2020 #5
yeah, but BGBD Apr 2020 #6
Tracheotomies n/t OhioChick Apr 2020 #7
Not sure what you are meaning about trachs.... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2020 #8
Just a quick search... OhioChick Apr 2020 #10
Very interesting. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2020 #21
Intubation is prone to complications. herding cats Apr 2020 #9
Sort of modern, like bleeding. kentuck Apr 2020 #12
I think when this first started mnhtnbb Apr 2020 #13
15% of people Skidmore Apr 2020 #14
where did you see that? that is 3 times higher than any of the highest mainstream lethality rates I Celerity Apr 2020 #15
That stat was given Skidmore Apr 2020 #16
Unless there is universal testing those "stats" are meaningless. retread Apr 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #19
As intubation is a last resort, I'm not surprised at the high mortality rate. Hugin Apr 2020 #25
As we learn more... Zeus69 Apr 2020 #28
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