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liberalhistorian

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19. Thank you. I raised an aspie son and know many
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:42 PM
Sep 2012

aspies and have studied psychology and sociology and I know good and damned well that it is NOT NOT NOT sociopathy, period. The media does an absolutely horrible job of presenting AS and autism and propagating stereotypes, misinformation and inaccuracies. One of the problems is that it's only been officially recognized in this country since 1994, whereas it's been recognized in Europe for over fifty years and knowledge is much better there. I am SICK TO DEATH of every person woh's a jerk being automatically slapped with the aspie label by people who don't know shit about it, who are just going by stereotypes.

Aspies mostly certainly DO feel emotions and empathy and care about others. It's just that it's not in the typical way that we would normally relate to and that is socially expected. To them, it feels like they are on another planet and having to endure daily negotiations through constant minefields, always being afraid of what they say and do and of not understanding things correctly. This is one reason why adult aspies seem so aloof, the fear has either paralyzed or numbed them.

And some of the nastiest people I've ever known have been very socially adept, so having social sense doesn't always mean shit. Just one of the major differences between aspies and sociopathy is that, when you explain to an aspie that something has hurt someone or explained how someone feels about something, they almost always DO care and try to understand and do something about it. Whereas sociopaths often actually have good social sense (which is how they're able to fool so many people so often to manipulate and get just what they want), and know right from wrong and know how people are feeling. They just don't give a shit.

Unfortunately, hate groups like FAAAS (Families of Adults Affected by Asperger's Syndrome) perpetuate this bullshit and actively work for discrimination against aspies in family law, employment, legally, etc. I remember my son asking me once, in tears, after looking at their site and their information, "why do they hate me so much when they don't even know me". Heartbreaking.

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as noted in that other thread... mike_c Sep 2012 #1
Too bad... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #42
Can someone post a link to the other thread? nt bananas Sep 2012 #61
it was self deleted by its author mike_c Sep 2012 #69
Absofuckinglutely. cali Sep 2012 #2
Yeah, it's just more "let's medicalize Being The Other Side" BS. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #3
Agreed! Everyone who disagrees with you and/or is a complete ass, is NOT Care Acutely Sep 2012 #29
+1000 goclark Sep 2012 #4
DU is still arguing about this? Cleita Sep 2012 #5
When has that ever stopped anything? nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #43
I read the earlier thread . . . fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #6
Agreed 100% but in some cases the presentation hifiguy Sep 2012 #7
And the same presentation for TBI nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #12
I have said it.... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #8
I don't know you, but I am impressed. truedelphi Sep 2012 #45
I don't know you Robyn66 Sep 2012 #76
Asperger is not the kind of syndrome that lends itself to holding someone down and cutting... Tikki Sep 2012 #9
Exactly! Ask me or ask my brother. LoveIsNow Sep 2012 #28
Thank you for setting us straight. Well said, said well, and well, ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #10
It was not well said. randome Sep 2012 #34
I agree with that. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #51
Exactly! Romney is a narcissist, if he's anything out of a textbook. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #11
NPD marions ghost Sep 2012 #59
Err tama Sep 2012 #13
Really? SheilaT Sep 2012 #56
I am the sister of one who is a compulsive liar. Mojorabbit Sep 2012 #58
As others have said also in this thread tama Sep 2012 #62
They may THINK they can lie... Mopar151 Sep 2012 #73
Some may be terrible at it tama Sep 2012 #74
They may THINK they can Robyn66 Sep 2012 #77
I agree Notafraidtoo Sep 2012 #14
Great insight . . . thanks. fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #15
Isn't that a contradiction? Confusious Sep 2012 #20
You would think Notafraidtoo Sep 2012 #85
on the mark il_lilac Sep 2012 #22
I agree with you completely. Romney is a psychopath. Avalux Sep 2012 #16
As soon as this news story broke, I knew we'd get more of the Romney has Asperger's shit. Pithlet Sep 2012 #17
THANKS for this info and letting those of us who don't know Raine Sep 2012 #18
Thank you. I raised an aspie son and know many liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #19
liberalhistorian Diclotican Sep 2012 #35
Wow. Was unaware of the hate group. mmonk Sep 2012 #68
Yes, well, they're a real liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #72
Never seen an Aspie lie, for sure. tjdee Sep 2012 #21
This "no empathy" crap is really crap eridani Sep 2012 #23
EXACTLY! backscatter712 Sep 2012 #54
I have taught kids with aspergers adigal Sep 2012 #24
I Think in Rmoney's Case It Isn't a Lack of Empathy, He's Just a Sadistic Bastard AndyTiedye Sep 2012 #33
That crap is really rubbing this Aspie the wrong way. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #25
I would imagine. HuckleB Sep 2012 #27
Hi Odin!! Robyn66 Sep 2012 #81
Hiya, Robyn! Odin2005 Sep 2012 #82
Really? Ugh. Maybe I should stay away a little longer. HuckleB Sep 2012 #26
It is Hard to Imagine an Aspie Becoming a Politician AndyTiedye Sep 2012 #30
well said Robyn, totally agree!!! n/t riverwalker Sep 2012 #31
Robyn66 Diclotican Sep 2012 #32
What you are saying is true but it depends on the individual Shiraz Sep 2012 #36
Thanks for posting this. efhmc Sep 2012 #37
Bravo!! DonRedwood Sep 2012 #38
The OP in that thread was deleted Warpy Sep 2012 #39
As someone who has aspergers... sakabatou Sep 2012 #40
As a parent of a kid with ASD... lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #50
I guess it depends on the aspie then sakabatou Sep 2012 #57
A lot of people do not understand it treestar Sep 2012 #41
I see the same "<asshole d'jour> must be an aspie" OP about once a week. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #52
It probably just got these people to double down treestar Sep 2012 #64
Maybe. But there have been times when other people's anger Pithlet Sep 2012 #66
Hadn't heard that, elleng Sep 2012 #44
I have two aspergers sons..... Pauldg47 Sep 2012 #46
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #47
Shit R Money is no Aspie - More like Combo #5 of bad wiring Mopar151 Sep 2012 #48
I've been waiting for a mom to get pissed off. DevonRex Sep 2012 #49
now you're confused. That Tourette's adamuu Sep 2012 #53
Agreed! Romney's social awkwardness is due to the fact that he is an INEPT sociopath Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #55
I think Aspergers is a mystery cherish44 Sep 2012 #60
I totally agree. Jennicut Sep 2012 #63
Not just Aspergers, but other people with ... Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2012 #65
Agreed. It has made me leary of spending much time here lately. mmonk Sep 2012 #67
Um, not to nitpick, but I will anyway Seeking Serenity Sep 2012 #70
Exactly, they cant lie Robyn66 Sep 2012 #75
For some reason tama Sep 2012 #78
I use neuro-typicals (as does John Elder Robison, himself an Aspie) Seeking Serenity Sep 2012 #79
My daughter has definitely grown with therapy Robyn66 Sep 2012 #80
Thank you for sharing tama Sep 2012 #83
One of the people I love most dearly on this earth has Aspergers. Zorra Sep 2012 #71
I agree wholeheartedly YoungDemCA Sep 2012 #84
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