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cpwm17

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28. It's a mundane fact that governments often don't tell the truth, especially when things go wrong
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:49 AM
Sep 2012

And there are also some truly slimy characters in government with their own selfish agendas. That is no evidence whatsoever for the ridiculous conspiracy theories put forth by those with their own selfish agendas to be gobbled up by the gullible.

However, one important part of scientific training is learning to avoid speculating beyond the data, but this requirement of the scientific process depends critically on the assumption (which is almost always valid) that scientists will present all relevant data and methodology to their research community as accurately and as completely as they can.


Not only do conspiracy theorists go way beyond the data they also contradict obvious fact. Conspiracy theorists cannot separate the possible from the impossible. Conspiracy theorists don't understand basic human psychology.

The reasons the Bush Administration ignored the warnings are opened to speculation. But conspiracy theorists go way beyond that. They create impossible Rube Goldberg scenarios that defy common sense. They interfere with the search for truth.
K&R JDPriestly Sep 2012 #1
Emphatic K&R! Explains why I consider myself 'agnostic' on the 9-11 attacks. - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #2
Thank you for encapsulating my whole set of feelings about conspiracy theory in general, and 9/11 Nay Sep 2012 #3
All we know for certain is that we're being lied to and that the lie is being used... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #4
Um...'rapists'? I guess that's used in a metaphorical sense. randome Sep 2012 #5
Rapists are to rape victims as eridani Sep 2012 #22
Really excellent analysis... ljm2002 Sep 2012 #6
TL, DR. There is ONLY ONE CONSPIRACY! slackmaster Sep 2012 #7
They don't have to hide anything; it's just too overwhelming an amount of information treestar Sep 2012 #8
The problem is the paranoid see conspiracies everywhere. MicaelS Sep 2012 #9
IOW, some have a far higher need than others for perfect consistency-- eridani Sep 2012 #20
Same reason we have religions. Humans want to understand why things happen even without knowledge. pampango Sep 2012 #10
No, that's why we have government pronouncements. JackRiddler Sep 2012 #13
What if the government provides "knowledge" but it conflicts with our religion or ct? pampango Sep 2012 #21
What if the government lies as a routine policy? JackRiddler Sep 2012 #25
K&R nt raouldukelives Sep 2012 #11
But many of the 9/11 CTs do not involve hidden knowledge. hack89 Sep 2012 #12
Make sure to inject your good friend, controlled demolition, JackRiddler Sep 2012 #15
But MIHOP is the face of 911 Truth hack89 Sep 2012 #16
I don't know that I would call it "LIHOP" - TBF Sep 2012 #14
My take is a weak version of LIHOP eridani Sep 2012 #19
Thank you so much for this, K&R. EOTE Sep 2012 #17
Recommended me b zola Sep 2012 #18
KR. When the "party line" doesn't make sense, doesn't explain events satisfactorily, people start HiPointDem Sep 2012 #23
And don't forget the rather large number of successful known conspiracies. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #24
Forward graham4anything Sep 2012 #26
There is something we can do - TBF Sep 2012 #27
It's a mundane fact that governments often don't tell the truth, especially when things go wrong cpwm17 Sep 2012 #28
Excellent post! zappaman Sep 2012 #30
What interferes with the search for truth is being lied to eridani Sep 2012 #32
How about this one? eridani Sep 2012 #29
Good one! zappaman Sep 2012 #31
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