The cult made the worst vote in the history of this nation and they can't admit it.

[LiberalLovinLug]

41. I heard that excuse too, but in retrospect I don't think Trump supporters wanted to shake things up

They are conservatives. They don't like things shaking around without control. If anyone, it was the most ardent left that saw that a Trump win, which they and everyone else did not think was going to happen, but if it did, it would indeed "shake things up", and, they thought, accelerate a rejection of right wing politics. Well, we've had our shake up, and Trump still has over 40% approval. And something like 80% in his party. So perhaps the shake it up theory worked in the past, but today, with RW conspiracy theory media serving the President, who have no qualms about misinformation, and the GOP is eager to lie about anything, its near impossible to get the message through. So giving more power to the right only allows them to further indoctrinate their cult members, and either prevent investigations, or make them meaningless though their own media.

So I think in a lot of ways the "disruption" screwed the left. Folks in the Democratic party were abhorred by Trump and those that saw a dire need to get rid of him instead were convinced to go with the most moderate, less hope and changey, candidate with the assumption that that would make him more electable. It makes me wonder if Obama and Hillary were the last two nominees left this time round, against a second term Trump, if delegates would have rushed to Hillary, having the name and experience, and not gone out on a limb for the younger, and seemingly more progressive, riskier, at least in his primary run, candidate, who was talking about M4A, in different words, back then too.

No, what most Republicans wanted, or rather were convinced they wanted and were assured it was possible, was actually the opposiite. It was to put America back together again, make it more stable, less shaky. In their minds. To take it back to some fantasy time when there were no gays, women knew their place - in the home, Christianity was the only religion, and 99% of shows and movies were made up of white casts, set in white suburban communities etc etc. "Simpler times" ie....simpler for them to comprehend and be comfortable with. And they're angry that we don't want the same things.