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In reply to the discussion: If this story is true... It's NOT GOOD... [View all]BarackTheVote
(938 posts)132. Who are these "senior diplomatic sources"?
I doubt any of the survivors of the consulate attack have talked to this British tabloid; and how many people would definitively know that a phone call hadn't been made? Cause that's certainly what it sounds like from the Independent "exclusive story." Or, is this an insane extrapolation of what has been going around the RW echochamber already about Obama not coming to defense meetings (which is a ridiculous, scornworthy assertion), as member Laura PourMeADrink reported:
On a 2 hr drive today, I listened to a rw radio station. Their rant was:
1. Obama doesn't attend daily security briefings. (which supposedly isn't really true)
2. If Obama DID go to the briefings (instead of playing golf) he would have known there was going to be an attack.
3. Why didn't Obama arm-up ? If he had gone to briefings, he would have known about attack and could have saved those people who were killed.
4. Ergo, Obama killed those people.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021338992#post8
So, a lie based on the compression of another lie, thus creating a super lie worthy of Ryan himself!
But even if this 48-hour warning WAS true... what was the threat that was reported? And isn't it possible that the threat was already something being planned for? It WAS 9/11, after all, and all government officials in the ME must have been on high alert already! BUT--the warning COULDN'T have been the demonstrations against Innocence of Muslims, since that only went viral over the weekend.
While I'm leaning toward Laura's interpretation of events, if I were to give The Independent a HUGE benefit of the doubt, it's possible that the "stress test" had determined that the threat reported could be defended against without further back-up, and that the consulate was already prepared for a threat such as the one reported... and then were taken off-guard by the spontaneous demonstration and by some of the Libyan guards supposedly (again, giving this story the benefit of the doubt) turning their backs due to the outrage they themselves felt about the film.
This story's really a non-starter. Way too little information for us to make a determination at best, a flat-out lie at worst, and OBVIOUSLY an irresponsible, if not libelous, headline!
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The comment section has been flooded by RWers. This does not say much for the site, I guess.
GreenPartyVoter
Sep 2012
#1
Well, considering it's the current headline on Drudge, it makes sense that conservatives are reading
WillowTree
Sep 2012
#130
Yep. The real Russian Mafia...the KGB guys turned billionaires. The guys sitting in Brighton Beach?
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#18
Some part of it has to be true, how did they know where the "safe house" was
NotThisTime
Sep 2012
#9
I agree. Cause for much concern. In fact, it's so concerning that my concern is feeling concerned.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2012
#30
if it's true it wouldn't only affect Hillary it would affect Obama as head of the administration
WI_DEM
Sep 2012
#140
There's no doubt it was planned in advance, and not a spontaneous street mob
TwilightGardener
Sep 2012
#17
Where did I say it was planned by the State Dept.? I think you're overreacting
TwilightGardener
Sep 2012
#32
Be as disdainful as you want, I don't think members of this "spontaneous" mob knew how
TwilightGardener
Sep 2012
#52
It doesn't have to be a security leak at all. What about the LOCAL guards who were guarding the
Th1onein
Sep 2012
#87
Just trying to clarify, here...Do you mean the idea that it wasn't spontaneous
truth2power
Sep 2012
#102
Well, I'm not blaming either Obama or the State Dept. Not sure who is. I saw some
TwilightGardener
Sep 2012
#112
If some people attack you, start fires, causing you to die of smoke inhalation, it's still murder.
Nye Bevan
Sep 2012
#31
Maybe the fire was set so as to drive them out into the open where they could be shot?
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2012
#115
I thought they set his car on fire. If it were just the smoke in the area, why would he
renie408
Sep 2012
#59
They are owned by a guy who used to work for the KGB. Tell me how 'independent' they are? nt
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#49
If that's your argument, and Putin is ex-KGB, wouldn't they want President Obama re-elected?
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2012
#122
It's the paper Robert Fisk and Patrick Cockburn report on the Middle East for
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#134
You are always KGB. Just like Bob Woodward will always be Naval Intelligence. Don't kid yourself--
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#135
Obama didn't want to attack Iran because he didn't want the Middle East to erupt in violence....
Junkdrawer
Sep 2012
#24
In other words, the right wing is willing to commit treason in order to win.
Dawson Leery
Sep 2012
#64
doesn't really matter if the story is true or not. Repubs will start the drumbeat and eventually
Liberal_in_LA
Sep 2012
#34
doesn't really worry me. Nothing we can do about it. That's how the right operate
Liberal_in_LA
Sep 2012
#46
This sounds like a plant by Republicans. Still, I hope and pray this isn't true. I doubt it is.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#54
Look at it this way. If you put them on high alert and/or send troops then you look panicky. Second
oviedodem
Sep 2012
#56
Frankly the whole thing smacks of a Cheney production. Hmm. "Obama doesn't attend briefings" meme
progressivebydesign
Sep 2012
#108
I agree--to reiterate what you say, I don't know who was ultimately behind the attacks,
TwilightGardener
Sep 2012
#113
I Told Him/Her To Bend Over So He Or She Could Give Evil (Romney) An Opening
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2012
#128
Just sayin.....This post is the first post in the DU trashing on conservativeunderground.com
Laura PourMeADrink
Sep 2012
#138