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In reply to the discussion: Obama soars in Ohio/Florida Virginia brand new NBC/Marist polls [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Rove and the Bush's need Romney to lose in 2012 so Jeb can attempt to win the general of 2016.With the recent repub primary changes all favoring Jeb more than any other new candidate, if anything is fixed its that Rove is not on Romney's side. And the benefactor of the 2000 shenanigans was Bush and only Bush.
Herr Mittens is always smug, he was botoxed with that smug look on his face, after all, what does he care, day after election he is still a billionaire and they say he was offered a job that pays 300million after 2008, sure that job still awaits him.
Remember something else President Obama is not some naive hick, he knows the tricks and the people behind him know.
Bob Shrum and the others that worked for Kerry and Gore do not work for Obama(for good reason).
And remember too, the few percent that may be offset will themselves be offset by ultra conservative libertarian Gary Johnson being on the ballot in 47 states, and Virginia having Goode on the ballot.
What Ralph Nader did in 2000 to the Dems (cause directly the Gore lose), Johnson can do this time to Mittens.
Nader made it close enough to doubt. I 100% blame Nader more than anything else, because Gore would have won NH and those 4 votes would have done it without Florida.
BTW, Obama doesn't even need to win Florida or Ohio but Romney needs both and still comes up way short.
And Obama is not Jimmy Carter either. And had Al Gore used Bill Clinton, hemight have won Arkansas and the very conservative turned Tennessee.