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WhiskeyWulf

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11. Narcissistic defenses are surprisingly durable.
Tue May 12, 2020, 05:03 PM
May 2020

I'm not a psychologist, but I have some academic & professional background in mental health. And I grew up with a narcissistic father who loves the shit outta Trump.

If Trump loses, he will enter a semi- or completely psychotic state in which he is the victim. He will never accept the slightest bit of blame for his loss or his failures as a president. It will be a plot against him, or the ingratitude of the American people, or some other excuse. But he is not capable of seeing himself as inadequate.

If his narcissistic defenses actually failed, his whole psyche would crumble, and he would (possibly) commit suicide to escape the shame of knowing what he really is. But that doesn't happen often with narcissists, at least in my observation. I do think it is possible he would resign the presidency to save face IF there was an extreme threat of public humiliation, but it takes a lot to get a narcissist to that point. A normal person who had failed at a job so badly would already be far past that point. He is pretty well protected from a sense of humiliation by his psychopathology.

Just my rambling thoughts.

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He'd say that the election was stolen. n/t Igel May 2020 #1
not a psychologist, but I have unfortunate experience with NPD SoonerPride May 2020 #2
And then he'll find some way PatSeg May 2020 #12
Your last two sentences gave me goosebumps Lord Ludd May 2020 #30
This is what Bill Maher, Michael Moore, and others have been going on about. soldierant May 2020 #31
I am not a psychologist, but I think he will have to be forced out if he loses. Thomas Hurt May 2020 #3
+1, his way of saying he was cheated would have to be forced out. Hopefully the need for peace will uponit7771 May 2020 #4
could be I just think he is going to try to make some bucks off it... Thomas Hurt May 2020 #6
Yes, that's pretty much what I said PatSeg May 2020 #14
What if he's broke and owes hundreds of millions to Russia & China? Lock him up. May 2020 #29
He might, in Hitlerian fashion, say that the country Harker May 2020 #5
LOL. Reminds me of this scene Quixote1818 May 2020 #7
Who really knows? Harker May 2020 #17
I have always believed that he would commit suicide if reality pushed at him too hard... First Speaker May 2020 #8
Not from remorse, certainly... Harker May 2020 #18
He ran for President in 2012 and lost he survived. He'll just blame the loss on... PoliticAverse May 2020 #9
Why did he lose in 2012? Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #13
He can easily enough blame others and claim fraud unblock May 2020 #10
Narcissistic defenses are surprisingly durable. WhiskeyWulf May 2020 #11
I suspect when the returns come in, he won't just go ballistic--- lastlib May 2020 #15
Maybe like what soapy water does to the covid-19 virus eleny May 2020 #16
A physical exit is not a problem for him. Hearthrob May 2020 #19
He will hire "only the best" lawyers to try and disrupt the counting and certification process Fiendish Thingy May 2020 #20
I think your scenario is likely, as nightmarish as it sounds. Texin May 2020 #24
I'd help fund a billboard near Mar-ma-lado... SergeStorms May 2020 #21
I seriously doubt he will stay in office all the way to inaguration day. Lucinda May 2020 #22
You'd think he'd be used to it by now. He's been a failure his entire miserable life. Texin May 2020 #23
As a psychotherapist I see several possibilities. nolabear May 2020 #25
Hopefully in the worst kind of way. Mental breakdown of epic proportions is a good start. n/t captain jack May 2020 #26
One things for sure: He'll have a hard time adjusting to life in prison. n/t. NNadir May 2020 #27
I think he will take a very long 'vacation' after losing. He will say demigoddess May 2020 #28
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