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Dennis Donovan

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Sun May 17, 2020, 05:40 AM May 2020

Two Coasts. One Virus. How New York Suffered Nearly 10 Times the Number of Deaths as California. [View all]

https://www.propublica.org/article/two-coasts-one-virus-how-new-york-suffered-nearly-10-times-the-number-of-deaths-as-california

California’s governor and San Francisco’s mayor worked together to act early in confronting the COVID threat. For Andrew Cuomo and Bill de Blasio, it was a different story, and 27,000 New Yorkers have died so far.

by Joe Sexton and Joaquin Sapien May 16, 5 a.m. EDT

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In an interview, California Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly said it was critical to allow Northern California counties to rely on their own experts, act with a degree of autonomy and thus perhaps pave the way for the state to expand on what they had done. And three days after San Francisco and its neighboring counties were closed, Newsom, on March 19, imposed the same restrictions on the rest of California.

Breed, it turns out, had sent de Blasio a copy of her detailed shelter-in-place order. She thought New York might benefit from it.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, however, reacted to de Blasio’s idea for closing down New York City with derision. It was dangerous, he said, and served only to scare people. Language mattered, Cuomo said, and “shelter-in-place” sounded like it was a response to a nuclear apocalypse.

Moreover, Cuomo said, he alone had the power to order such a measure.

For years, Cuomo and de Blasio, each of whom has harbored national political ambitions, had engaged in a kind of intrastate cold war, a rivalry that to many often felt childish and counterproductive. When de Blasio finally decided to close the city’s schools, it was Cuomo who rushed to make the public announcement, claiming it as his decision.

“No city in the state can quarantine itself without state approval,” Cuomo said of de Blasio’s call for a shelter-in-place order. “I have no plan whatsoever to quarantine any city.”

Cuomo’s conviction didn’t last. On March 22, he, too, shuttered his state. The action came six days after San Francisco had shut down, five days after de Blasio suggested doing similarly and three days after all of California had been closed by Newsom. By then, New York faced a raging epidemic, with the number of confirmed cases at 15,000 doubling every three or four days.

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Post-March 22, I've appreciated and applauded Governor Cuomo's actions, especially the informative pressers. But it was a huge mistake when he dragged his feet for days about the statewide closing.

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We freaked the fuck out and sheltered before government officials told us to. RandySF May 2020 #1
I did too, on March 11 Dennis Donovan May 2020 #3
Yeah, same here. roamer65 May 2020 #16
That was the last day for my household, too. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #18
Same here, we live in the Bay Area. secondwind May 2020 #6
Northern California was the very first place padfun May 2020 #2
Sacramento has leveled the curve shanti May 2020 #20
My recollection, as an NYC employee, was that Cuomo was Squinch May 2020 #4
The ritual pissing party between NY State and NYC is part of the story BeyondGeography May 2020 #5
Lots of deaths in nursing homes too, which wasn't handled jmg257 May 2020 #7
This article is just so much bullshit RAB910 May 2020 #8
This. Squinch May 2020 #9
Thank you for stating this truth. n/t phylny May 2020 #11
Hmmm ... Igel May 2020 #15
The NYT didn't actually express an opinion in the link you provided RAB910 May 2020 #19
I really like ProPublica, but they could have explored the hypotheses regarding different mutations, chia May 2020 #10
It's all Trumps fault, end of story. shockey80 May 2020 #12
What shockey80 said... not_the_one May 2020 #13
Some people do not know why NYC is not a..."Car Culture" ..NO PARKING IN MANHATTAN.. Stuart G May 2020 #14
This is comparing apples to oranges. Italy and Spain would be a better... SKKY May 2020 #17
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