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questionseverything

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48. we need to be aware of what's possible
Tue May 19, 2020, 12:53 PM
May 2020
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/



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Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election, according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit News.
Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books. Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday.
Detroit’s voting irregularities spur state audit

The Detroit precincts are among those that couldn’t be counted during a statewide presidential recount that began last week and ended Friday following a decision by the Michigan Supreme Court.
Democrat Hillary Clinton overwhelmingly prevailed in Detroit and Wayne County. But Republican President-elect Donald Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes or 47.5 percent to 47.3 percent.

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trump "won" in 2016 with Michigan turning in numbers that were physically impossible....1/3 of Detroit precincts reported more votes than voters...one reason this could happen is there was a program on the software with a predetermined result...and get this in mich it is illegal to recount precincts like that, the first result has got to stand so even tho everyone realizes what was reported is not possible, trump still received the "win" for that state

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it is not defeatism to know what we are up against and plan to combat it, don't let anyone convince you otherwise

to overcome the rig we need overwhelming numbers

https://www.countable.us/articles/5863-evidence-shows-hackers-changed-votes-2016-election-admit-michael-harriot-root

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K&R! SheltieLover May 2020 #1
Telling people to lighten up? Really? SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #2
Elections have been stolen since Day 1.... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #8
So what is your message? Don't bother? We won the midterms...now didn't we. Demsrule86 May 2020 #13
That is exactly my point. We will have hurricanes, blizzards, earthquakes and other things... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #32
I am prepared to win. I believe in confidence and hopefulness....not fear and a lack of Demsrule86 May 2020 #33
So your message is...the election is hopleless-just give up....that is a bad message and you should Demsrule86 May 2020 #14
No exactly the opposite. SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #17
If you believe and election will be stolen than some will ask why bother? Demsrule86 May 2020 #34
Do you believe elections haven't been? Really? SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #35
I believe some close elections have been...but not landslides or even like the 08 election. Demsrule86 May 2020 #59
The OP is talking about defeatism. BannonsLiver May 2020 #19
Lighten up IS defeatism in my book! SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #25
I'm not a huge fan of the "lighten up" phraseology BannonsLiver May 2020 #28
So was the OP penning a letter on DU to people NOT on DU? SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #30
I've lost interest at this point. BannonsLiver May 2020 #43
No I have seen a number of doom and gloom posts here...those saying Trump wins are particularly Demsrule86 May 2020 #60
This is an election year. We fight where we have the best chance to win period...defeatism is bad. Demsrule86 May 2020 #36
Yes, we are in a position of strength. We need to act like it. tinrobot May 2020 #3
We should be confident...and I say this to those who post this crap who supported a different Demsrule86 May 2020 #12
We know he can't "cancel" the election he can negatively affect peoples ability to vote though ... uponit7771 May 2020 #4
The states we need have Democratic governors. Demsrule86 May 2020 #11
The states we need???? SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #26
We push in areas where we have a chance of winning...what states are you suggesting? Demsrule86 May 2020 #37
But only in states with dem govs? Lighten up right? SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #39
Three states make it impossible for Trump to win the EC...Michigan, WI and PA. Demsrule86 May 2020 #61
I am sorry but if we do not take the opportunity to start making in roads SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #67
Think "Patriot Act." Eyeball_Kid May 2020 #5
Assuming that was true, his term of office still ends on Jan 20... brooklynite May 2020 #6
And then what? MousePlayingDaffodil May 2020 #7
And more importantly to the pugs so does the term of 38 Republican senators. Demsrule86 May 2020 #38
Why didn't he do that for the specials or in 18 ? Just stop. You only discourage Democrats Demsrule86 May 2020 #10
Stop labeling everything as defeatism. SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #27
If it is defeatism, the 'label' is appropriate. Demsrule86 May 2020 #41
Except this is rank defeatism obamanut2012 May 2020 #52
Stop with the defeatism. BannonsLiver May 2020 #20
Thank you...and most of those who embrace this theory supported a different candidate. Demsrule86 May 2020 #9
K&R Demsrule86 May 2020 #15
I'll lighten up when the Air Force helicopter takes Trump to his Trump jet at Dulles no_hypocrisy May 2020 #16
Agreed. SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #21
Probably before the inauguration at noon. I don't expect him to attend. mobeau69 May 2020 #22
I vividly remember watching Bush's helicopter departure over the crowds Iwasthere May 2020 #31
We take this approach at our peril. not_the_one May 2020 #18
Spot on post & exactly how I see 2020 election playing out. Budi May 2020 #24
Right on! SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #29
How would one or several states canceling the election make it invalid? mcar May 2020 #45
this obamanut2012 May 2020 #53
That read like a concession. Let's cede all of our power to Putin. tinrobot May 2020 #49
Posting doom and gloom does nothing but discourage our-side. Take a turn at phone canvassing Demsrule86 May 2020 #63
Good points, except North Carolina is not controlled by Democrats. Captain Stern May 2020 #23
Same situation in Wisconsin dragonlady May 2020 #44
...and a Democrat as AG brooklynite May 2020 #46
Thank you for pointing that out. Cha May 2020 #58
You know what? Fuck it. I won't be lightening up. SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #40
It is called a discussion...people post their opinions. Demsrule86 May 2020 #42
it isn't a discussion when people dictate SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #56
we need to be aware of what's possible questionseverything May 2020 #48
lol obamanut2012 May 2020 #54
I will not lighten up. kacekwl May 2020 #47
what you do not understand is who "controls" the results questionseverything May 2020 #50
An ex- intel chief said we should be terrified. Hortensis May 2020 #51
Lighten up doesn't mean its in the bag ibegurpard May 2020 #55
Part of GOTV is EndlessWire May 2020 #57
He is still out of office on January 20...no matter what and so are 38 Senators...so just stop Demsrule86 May 2020 #64
Instead of being snippy with me EndlessWire May 2020 #65
A corrupt AG and trump's documented attempt to get a governor to ecstatic May 2020 #62
Death Count Donnie couldn't have gained support with closing in on 100,000 C-19 deaths? Brainfodder May 2020 #66
Amazing greenjar_01 May 2020 #68
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