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Shiv

(113 posts)
60. I just don't understand thinking like this and its in my own family
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:29 AM
May 2020

My dad is a cancer survivor who is on /that/ side.

I really wanted to post this train of thought I had interrupted to social media after an argument with my father that he ended abruptly. Was wisely advised that was a bad, bad idea, so here I am.

I had heard from other family that, unlike the seriousness he was treating things with initially, that he was now downplaying everything and said such as "God didn't let me die to my cancer, he won't let me die to this". Ignore the fact that doctors and access to medicaid played a major factor... I wont get into the talking points I heard when trying to get through to him, suffice to say they were easily recognizable and involved tracking chips. Though, oddly in the tests not the vaccine.

Of course, it turns out he is still protecting himself but not once did he stop me to point that out to calm or reassure me. I realize of course it's one thing to espouse foolish beliefs, it's another to broadcast them while staying at home or still keeping to protective measures you've been practicing right along. Oh well.

I apologize if this is the wrong place, long-time over-the-shoulder lurker. This thought was designed to make a point within my family about what we're all dealing with, I don't wish it to start an argument here or offend. Just needed a like-minded and supportive environment to get it out of my head, mostly.

Here goes the unpolished thought-chain I got cut off on now turned-venting and maybe someone else will feel like making something helpful of it:

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There are 2555 days in seven years. Right now, around 1400 Americans have been dying on average daily during the pandemic, even under some amount of stay-at-home and isolation orders meant, where-so ordered, to save as many lives as possible. The virus has gone exactly nowhere, and reopening where not based on advisable conditions has begun increasing numbers in previously less affected areas. 6.5 million divided by 2555 works out to 2544 daily deaths. That is math. That is not opinion, belief or feeling. That is quantitatively comparable. The deaths are dispropriatently affecting the poor, the disabled, minorities and the elderely. Also mathematically demonstrated, not opinion, belief or feeling. That is qualitatively comparable. The pace has and will accelerate by the end, large numbers have been pressed into unsafe work conditions before some share of them dying, and in the worst areas, what to do with the remains is its own scale of horror, which wont dissuade the obvious counterpoints but there it is. If you do not understand my reference to 6.5 million, or 7 years, you have apparently forgotten.

We. Were. Supposed. To. Never. Forget.

#Covid19DenialKills
#Holocaust45
#Nuremberg2021
(negligence, if believable, is not a defense, my understanding is it only affects the charges. or perhaps sentencing)

P.S. If you have thought that 1400 average number increasing by a thousand is unlikely, kindly remember only one out of three people that have died have died in the U.S., where the outcome is so far the worst of any nation on earth and the denial is amongst the most dangerous, Brazil not-withstanding.

For some solace or hope I would recommend Matthew 18:20 and suggest any distance is not a limiting factor.
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Yeah who needs medical care when you've got Jesus on your side? Initech May 2020 #1
Shh. Just don't tell them that Jesus has forsaken them and will never return during their lifetime. TheBlackAdder May 2020 #59
Pictures of 2 very stupid parents..More stupid than anyone can know... Stuart G May 2020 #2
Step in front of a bus because God's got you covered. Mister Ed May 2020 #3
So if their kid dies will the parents thank their god? TeamPooka May 2020 #4
It will be gawd's will. You can't argue with that. Arkansas Granny May 2020 #6
"Daddy was such a good man GAWD took Maru Kitteh May 2020 #15
"God works in mysterious ways." plimsoll May 2020 #25
Some day she'll grow up and realize what horrible things her family has taught her. Girard442 May 2020 #5
Look at her face, that is not an actual smile TNNurse May 2020 #26
Programming/indoctrinating. eom sprinkleeninow May 2020 #52
If God had us covered,we wouldn't have had covid to begin with. LisaL May 2020 #7
Exactly! Rebl2 May 2020 #10
Wait for it... Grokenstein May 2020 #32
They use a many sided argument. They would say God gave us covid19 to teach us an important Blue_true May 2020 #56
If God Rebl2 May 2020 #8
They died because their belief wasn't strong enough mercuryblues May 2020 #62
Where was God for the 350,000 people worldwide that are now dead? tulipsandroses May 2020 #9
I guess God didn't want to bother with the 100,000 in the US who died, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #11
Sad sacks all Solly Mack May 2020 #12
If God had not expected people to think Frances May 2020 #13
God created science so we could learn to protect ourselves demigoddess May 2020 #19
Natural selection will sort this out for us. Have patience. bullimiami May 2020 #14
I'm beginning to believe that large parts of our society has no use for us old people. Sucha NastyWoman May 2020 #18
I wish they would cite... Newest Reality May 2020 #16
moms wearing glasses, probably daughter has had braces, born in hospital... this is family that Demovictory9 May 2020 #17
Don't forget things like engineering and a grivulture, just to name a few. niyad May 2020 #42
exactly. Demovictory9 May 2020 #53
Proud home-schooling parents. iemitsu May 2020 #20
idiots pamdb May 2020 #21
Ask the young lady how she explains away the nearly 100K reported deaths in her country? Brainfodder May 2020 #22
Do they tell her not to wear a bicycle helmet? Or seatbelt? How about surgery? lostnfound May 2020 #23
Pelosi said it best Shermann May 2020 #24
Play in traffic with a blindfold, because God's got you covered mellow May 2020 #27
With a body bag. nt Xipe Totec May 2020 #38
He must have missed the other 350k...wonder how He chooses? jmg257 May 2020 #28
They're training her to be a moron. cp May 2020 #29
Crazy land Joinfortmill May 2020 #30
Do they think God was too stupid to come up with masks? Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #31
They don't understand how faith works ecstatic May 2020 #33
Proud parents. GeorgeGist May 2020 #34
This is truly ignorant lettucebe May 2020 #35
Church sign: we welcome God's victims Danmel May 2020 #36
... Celerity May 2020 #61
Pity they cannot be charged with child abuse and endangerment. Or attempted murder. niyad May 2020 #37
The God I believe in gave me a brain and that brain tells me to wear a mask. nt iluvtennis May 2020 #39
Which god, people? Paul says there are many, but one head honcho. If you look at the Karadeniz May 2020 #40
Tell that to the 343,513 global dead or the 100,000 US dead by Convid19. Fla Dem May 2020 #41
Leave your guns at home. smirkymonkey May 2020 #43
Stay out in that bright sunlight long enough and their god will leave a mark. KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #44
"Got you covered" in 6 feet of dirt. BamaRefugee May 2020 #45
BBut I bet dad carries a gun. RandySF May 2020 #46
Every time that I see some variant of "god will protect me, so I don't have to take any niyad May 2020 #47
God seems to have uncovered almost 100,000 here in America. keithbvadu2 May 2020 #48
These people are selfish GD idiots Trueblue Texan May 2020 #49
You know what god did? matt819 May 2020 #50
Are they against hospital care too, since God has them covered? IronLionZion May 2020 #51
You know... Squidly May 2020 #54
Covering their faces shouldn't be anything new to them pink May 2020 #55
"We're not thinking with our brains here..." Blue Owl May 2020 #57
God gave us masks In It to Win It May 2020 #58
I just don't understand thinking like this and its in my own family Shiv May 2020 #60
Thank you for sharing your story. I don't understand, either. Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #63
Welcome to DU mercuryblues May 2020 #64
Noah wore a mask. 7wo7rees May 2020 #65
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