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The Magistrate

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36. Nobody Has To Be Convinced, Sir, Conviction Is Not The Point
Mon May 25, 2020, 08:07 PM
May 2020

Some people will find their distaste and hatred for the cheap thug deepened by the idea he actually could be a murderous mobster. They will not necessarily believe it, but will enjoy thinking it, even saying it. Such reinforcement of existing conviction may contribute to the critical mass behind a decision to act, to volunteer for a campaign, to register, to vote.

Some supporters of the cheap thug will be enraged by the charge, and devote social media effort to 'debunking it', effort that won't be spent spreading their own smears, and there is research showing that 'debunking' often cements a preexisting belief rather than dispelling it. The very character of the people reacting with outrage to the claim will tend more than usually to reinforce its maybe being true, because many denouncing it will like the idea of Trump having killed these people, and in their heart of hearts will want the charge to be true. Surely the bigger than life Trump they worship, who looms with Rambo's muscles and Schwarzenegger's gatling mini-gun in dozens of internet graphics, would have some rats killed before they could do him any dirt.

Marketing depends on repetition, in the crudest analysis. What people hear, often, that sticks in their minds, and even if they disagree with something, even if they don't like it, it still may be something comes to their mind when a purchasing decision is made. People who don't pay a lot of attention may well recall having read somewhere Trump had some witnesses against him killed, if it is repeated often enough, and it will not go much against the predispositions of many regarding the cheap thug. It certainly could be some small portion of their final decision he is an unsavory and unfit person.

If people ever were swayed in their political behavior by reasoned argument, they are not so swayed now. The business of politics today is one of emotional manipulation, of burrowing in to the deeper layers of the mind like a tick beneath the skin.



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Murder Stays Open, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #1
Meanwhile, no AG, Democratic or Republican has seen a case to charge in 30 years... brooklynite May 2020 #6
So What, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #14
"This stuff doesn't have to be true..." brooklynite May 2020 #17
Look Around You, Sir --- Clearly It Does Not The Magistrate May 2020 #21
Which voters will be convinced by your story-telling? brooklynite May 2020 #25
Nobody Has To Be Convinced, Sir, Conviction Is Not The Point The Magistrate May 2020 #36
I agree with you Squidly May 2020 #40
I remember DENVERPOPS May 2020 #48
I'm with you, Magistrate........... MyOwnPeace May 2020 #31
"set loose in twitter feeds and on facebook " Yup.Make it trend everywhere, all day, watch him freak Budi May 2020 #18
It definitely looks like a criminal act in which Trump would be involved. oasis May 2020 #2
In Steve O'Donnell's book "Trumped," he recounted at the funeral of one of those employees no_hypocrisy May 2020 #3
Trump had plenty of mob connections to make this "accident" happen. dalton99a May 2020 #4
Everyone I talk to says he was involved. Many, many people are saying that. Good People! (nt) mr_lebowski May 2020 #5
DAMN, you're good! MyOwnPeace May 2020 #32
Unless Biden Was Involved, The Media Won't Care sfstaxprep May 2020 #7
I can't prove it, but I know he did it. smirkymonkey May 2020 #8
I doubt that he actually got his hands dirty to do it himself. But wasn't his buddy joey "no socks" niyad May 2020 #24
That's what I think. That he arranged it, but didn't do it himself. smirkymonkey May 2020 #29
Yeah Squidly May 2020 #41
BOOM! BComplex May 2020 #43
S.O.P by now DFW May 2020 #9
don't forget the 13 y/o anti-nuke anti-reagan samantha smith, about to hit it certainot May 2020 #23
Ghouliani, Barr involved I wonder? Friends in certain places. BSdetect May 2020 #10
As reminder.... BGBD May 2020 #11
Thugs like Trump, Putin and MbS never actually do things, they hire others to do their dirtywork. sop May 2020 #12
Obama did it. sellitman May 2020 #13
Maybe James Comey will come forward DENVERPOPS May 2020 #19
The entire republican party is tied up in trump's corruption at this point. Russia BComplex May 2020 #44
And two complete bystanders died... collateral damage to Trump renate May 2020 #15
I've always believed that what Putin has on tRUMP is not $ but; SayItLoud May 2020 #16
No Squidly May 2020 #42
Bingo. And his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and his choice of Alex Acosta for Labor secy BComplex May 2020 #45
Somewhere DENVERPOPS May 2020 #47
Spread this far and wide; maybe some truth will seep down into the sewer. malchickiwick May 2020 #20
there used to be a website with a comprehensive eye opening list of death by plane crash certainot May 2020 #22
Suspicious deaths are not limited to Trump. Lonestarblue May 2020 #27
True. Duppers May 2020 #39
I remember it well. DU was all over this story at the time, and subsequently followed BComplex May 2020 #46
The vast majority of conspiracy ideation's are complete bullshit. warmfeet May 2020 #26
Be careful warm feet DENVERPOPS May 2020 #49
More of this story at DU link.. Budi May 2020 #28
Adding PCIntern's thread from this morning malaise May 2020 #30
Thank you for adding PCIntern's link. Appears this story is quickly being re-told Budi May 2020 #33
Simple story - anytime you point one finger at someone else malaise May 2020 #34
Why isn't the MSM bitting on this??? WTHELL??? a kennedy May 2020 #35
A story/conspiracy theory that's 30 years old? brooklynite May 2020 #37
"Some People Say" works both ways. not_the_one May 2020 #38
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