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backscatter712

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71. "Karen" is a nickname for an arrogant entitled white woman.
Tue May 26, 2020, 07:52 PM
May 2020

The typical description of a Karen: Usually middle aged, has a bleached-blonde bob haircut. She's a Trump supporter, she's an antivaxxer, she refuses to wear a mask or do anything resembling a common-sense precaution against Captain Trumps. She can also be found shilling her MLM essential oils.

Canonically, a Karen is throwing a tantrum at the poor barista at the Starbucks because she got her double-half-caff latte with soy milk instead of almond milk. Of course, she's screaming, making a scene, and (all together now), asking for the manager.

Bear in mind that many people in customer service jobs, be they in retail, waiting tables, tending bar, talking on the phone in a call center, tend to be minorities - not having the educational or social-networking opportunities to move up in the world as easily. The usual socioeconomic disparities that cause minorities to get stuck in crappier, lower-paying jobs also often result in Karen getting a cushy job in some financial firm.

So the Karen stereotype is really from a lot of minority customer-facing workers blowing off steam after repeatedly dealing with snotty, entitled, privileged customers, who are throwing their weight around, being assholes, and making life more shitty for everyone.

Is "Karen" sexist or racist or otherwise prejudiced? My answer is no, particularly since the number-one characteristic of a Karen is throwing a tantrum and acting like an entitled, privileged harpy.

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No RandiFan1290 May 2020 #1
It's certainly ran it's course I hope. jimfields33 May 2020 #2
No. fleur-de-lisa May 2020 #3
No. StarfishSaver May 2020 #4
No more so, than it's male equivalent "Chad". Miguelito Loveless May 2020 #5
Well there are the male counterparts. Brock, Chad, and Walter. As detailed in the link below GoneOffShore May 2020 #18
And coming soon to an Internet meme near you: lastlib May 2020 #41
That's a completely separate category. Sort of a male Uber Karen. GoneOffShore May 2020 #45
Rob Dryerdeck on MTV Ridiculousness Captain Zero May 2020 #99
No. It is short hand for an entitled example of privilege (which is almost always white privilege) SoonerPride May 2020 #6
No FoxNewsSucks May 2020 #7
Except it's not used for men who are obnoxious, whiny, entitled, vindictive. comradebillyboy May 2020 #16
Chad, Brock, and Walter. GoneOffShore May 2020 #19
I've seen Chad memes. Chad is the studly many man. It's comradebillyboy May 2020 #22
Here's a link to the explanation. GoneOffShore May 2020 #24
Yeah-- I have only seen Chad used-- none of the other names. BigDemVoter May 2020 #35
Kyle and Kevin have been used from time to type to dub male "Karens". backscatter712 May 2020 #72
"Bubba" isn't used to describe women. 4hat doesn't make it sexist StarfishSaver May 2020 #31
It's also not all that derogatory. I recall when Clinton-Gore comradebillyboy May 2020 #49
Depends on the context StarfishSaver May 2020 #55
We've seen so many "Karens" over just the past week mcar May 2020 #61
I've heard Kevin as the counterpart to the Karen. nt Nay May 2020 #50
Chad is a younger generation name treestar May 2020 #87
"DONALD"!! lastlib May 2020 #42
Men are less likely to be labelled those things treestar May 2020 #89
why would it be? CatWoman May 2020 #8
No, but I kinda feel for women named "Karen" who aren't at all like that... hlthe2b May 2020 #9
the only Karen I know is black Skittles May 2020 #48
I actually know quite a few Karens, and none of them act like that. n/t Ms. Toad May 2020 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm May 2020 #80
Read the post I was responding to for context. Ms. Toad May 2020 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm May 2020 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm May 2020 #90
Still missing the context; still a nonsequitur. n/t Ms. Toad May 2020 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm May 2020 #92
Wow. Ms. Toad May 2020 #94
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm May 2020 #96
It has nothing to do with having the nerve to speak to me. Ms. Toad May 2020 #97
I always receive such a warm welcome when posting at DU. ahoysrcsm May 2020 #100
Very common name choice for the late treestar May 2020 #82
Yes, using a particular name treestar May 2020 #86
I don't think so, but I know others here do. demmiblue May 2020 #10
The 'Karen' memes and jokes aren't sexist or racist. cyberswede May 2020 #11
thank you for injecting logic and reason into this Celerity May 2020 #79
Yes nsd May 2020 #12
No. Aristus May 2020 #13
Interesting. Your anecdote brought to mind the Warren Zevon song. GoneOffShore May 2020 #21
Yes. One rarely sees that sort of tag on men who behave comradebillyboy May 2020 #14
This. Tipperary May 2020 #15
Ever since Eve in the Garden of Eden... comradebillyboy May 2020 #17
Safer. ancianita May 2020 #57
Google Chad mcar May 2020 #62
There are lots of nice guys named Dick, too. nt. Mariana May 2020 #20
This chia May 2020 #38
Yes! nt USALiberal May 2020 #23
Karens are the spawn of 1980s Yuppies. CaptYossarian May 2020 #25
Yes. n/t phylny May 2020 #26
Bye Felicia! Xolodno May 2020 #27
Fuck no ismnotwasm May 2020 #28
Becky... qwlauren35 May 2020 #29
Not at all. NYC Liberal May 2020 #30
Probably yes--and it's stupid. n/t blitzen May 2020 #32
No. sheshe2 May 2020 #33
Using a proper name doesn't define and clarify the obnoxious behavior. Ilsa May 2020 #34
When Rodney becomes a meme, we'll all know what they're talking about (Or most of us will) chia May 2020 #39
So, it's okay to bully the people actually named Rodney Ilsa May 2020 #40
As someone noted upthread, there are nice guys out there named Dick. chia May 2020 #47
Nope. Not even a little bit. Captain Stern May 2020 #36
No. When an oppressed population uses slang to describe its oppressor, that's not oppressive. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #37
No. BlueTsunami2018 May 2020 #43
I think it's simply a... LanternWaste May 2020 #44
It's shorthand for a certain type of white woman Bettie May 2020 #46
Since it refers to women - I GUESS that could be considered sexist. jmg257 May 2020 #51
Yes obamanut2012 May 2020 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #53
Yes, and racist too n/t Devil Child May 2020 #54
No and hell No Hobo May 2020 #56
It's a tired, overused sexist meme. kcr May 2020 #58
The people who use it don't see it that way StarfishSaver May 2020 #64
It's getting overplayed. And often incorrectly used. EllieBC May 2020 #59
No mcar May 2020 #60
Karens also do a lot of policing of the language minorities choose to use to describe our experience StarfishSaver May 2020 #66
I've heard "Chad" too. KentuckyWoman May 2020 #63
Nope. Iggo May 2020 #65
Yes. And its stupid. milestogo May 2020 #67
Becky, Karen, Susan & Gertrudes... Karen's are bad, but nothing tops my age group: Susans! TheBlackAdder May 2020 #68
I know a few women named Karen who absolutely do not fit the stereotype. tinrobot May 2020 #69
Yes. Because there are lots of women with this name and they don't deserve LisaL May 2020 #70
"Karen" is a nickname for an arrogant entitled white woman. backscatter712 May 2020 #71
So if your name were Karen, you'd be perfectly happy to be stereotyped as LisaL May 2020 #73
Most people don't take it that seriously. backscatter712 May 2020 #74
your actual name in real life has nothing to do with it Celerity May 2020 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm May 2020 #81
This forum does not use the term as originally intended. egduj May 2020 #76
No, not at all, and it is not new, other than apparently to some on DU. Celerity May 2020 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm May 2020 #83
Yes. treestar May 2020 #84
Absolutely not. MicaelS May 2020 #93
I Didn't Use RobinA May 2020 #95
Oh boy here we go. BannonsLiver May 2020 #98
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