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riderinthestorm

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20. That seems disingenuous as the riots are spreading around the world

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:12 AM

Sep 2012

Here's a chart for you to tag along

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/09/map-muslim-protests-around-world/56865/

Examples such as protesters in Australia demanding the filmmakers' be beheaded seems pretty violent to me, setting fires in embassies in Cairo, Tunisia and elsewhere... I believe JCMach's perspective is that there's an element of Saudi Salafist extremism that's working hard to foment violence.

IIRC, the US has never attacked, colonialized or even exploited the KSA, yet their version of Wahhabi fundamentalism is working hard against the west.

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Why are we arguing about freedom of speech and not the Clerics and Ideology that caused the deaths? [View all] JCMach1 Sep 2012 OP

And we can't look at them without considering our own Christian extremists. polichick Sep 2012 #1

Fundies live in the USA and though Demented orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #4

They've incited plenty of violence - including Palin's targeting of Dem leaders... polichick Sep 2012 #12

It is, until some of these damn religious nuts are reigned in it's going to get RKP5637 Sep 2012 #14

They're talking about taxing churches and all their property in Europe... polichick Sep 2012 #16

Yes, let's do that, by all means MNBrewer Sep 2012 #32

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #42

Doesn't matter what weapon they use, they blow up a building, doesn't matter how it was blown up NotThisTime Sep 2012 #47

Like Guns, Gods don't kill people orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #2

Fomenting hatred is a two-sided operation. GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #3

And one side is here in the United States... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #6

Well first of all it seems that the mobs of upset Muslims did not kill anyone. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #5

That seems disingenuous as the riots are spreading around the world riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #20

And exactly how many people have been Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #25

JCMach's OP is about the Saudi version of Islam and its infiltration in the general population riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #27

Let's stay on point. Extremism, Fundamentalism, Clerics, Ideology MNBrewer Sep 2012 #34

Well, the discussion would have to include Christians and Jews also. This shit did not happen nanabugg Sep 2012 #7

how about the daily drone strikes that kill civilians? cali Sep 2012 #8

Good American ,That's telling it like it is.... orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #11

Definitely the truth but don't know if truthtelling is an "American virtue" these days. polichick Sep 2012 #15

Being ' The Good German ' might be taking over. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #19

well thanks, though I don't think of myself as such really cali Sep 2012 #22

I live 45 minutes away , on another orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #29

"How about 60 years of colonialism?" EX500rider Sep 2012 #41

Clerics like Pat Robertson? The ideology of Gen Boynkin? annabanana Sep 2012 #9

Exactly. Christians are not innocent of hatred. auburngrad82 Sep 2012 #18

Pat Robertson is awful, so is Franklin Graham. MNBrewer Sep 2012 #35

Because no one ever likes the image presented in the mirror n/t LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #10

There was something Turbineguy Sep 2012 #13

We should... However, instead of distinguishing between the radical clerics & their agenda-driven hlthe2b Sep 2012 #17

Because criticizing back-assward cultures is un-PC. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #21

perhaps you might consider that the "film" is merely the spark. cali Sep 2012 #23

The rioters have control over their own behavior. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #24

first of all, most of them chose to protest cali Sep 2012 #26

Shhh Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #38

Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion are both first amendment rights in this country... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #28

Why? tama Sep 2012 #30

Evening kick for a post from a DUer, on the "front lines" so to speak nt riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #31

yeah and what would you suggest we do about them? ibegurpard Sep 2012 #33

"Saudi-supported clerics and mosques that blanket the Muslim world"... 99Forever Sep 2012 #36

I agree about our own fundies... however... JCMach1 Sep 2012 #39

"However" what? 99Forever Sep 2012 #43

basically put my thoughts in #40 JCMach1 Sep 2012 #44

I don't see a #40 99Forever Sep 2012 #45

You hit the nail on the head. malokvale77 Sep 2012 #46

You're assuming that treestar Sep 2012 #37

I agree, but Saudi radicalization of Muslims is a very, very real threat... JCMach1 Sep 2012 #40