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scarletwoman

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Sun May 31, 2020, 04:44 PM May 2020

Please, PLEASE read this about the Mpls. protests - from Minnesota Public Radio! [View all]

I've seen too much misunderstanding and off-the-wall speculation about the whole "outside agitator" stuff in Minneapolis and St. Paul going around DU, that I really hope DUers will take the time to read this piece.

As a Minnesota resident who has been continuously glued to all the local TV coverage since Friday, as well as monitoring local Twitter feeds directly from the communities involved, this article is the most accurate accounting of the "outside agitator" phenomenon that I've come across, so far:

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/30/outsiders-extremists-are-among-those-fomenting-violence-in-twin-cities
The killing of George Floyd
Outsiders, extremists are among those fomenting violence in Twin Cities
Jon Collins and Elizabeth Shockman
May 30, 2020 3:17 p.m.
Updated: 8:34 a.m., May 31, 2020

On his way home from a protest Friday night in Minneapolis, Jonathan Turner Bargen encountered a white man in a red pickup truck. The man was carrying an assault rifle and a handgun, Turner Bargen said. Then he noticed a symbol from the far-right militia group Three Percenters affixed to the truck.

“I circled back and took pictures of the vehicle. I was concerned about why they were present at the downtown protest, and had no idea who to notify,” said Turner Bargen in an email to MPR News.

<snip>

Accounts of armed men

Protesters and onlookers have posted numerous videos and accounts of confrontations with white men on social media, sometimes including symbols associated with fringe groups that originated online.

Many people have also told MPR News reporters of witnessing armed men in Minneapolis.

Bridget Schumann was out for a run near Calhoun Square in south Minneapolis on Friday night when she saw a truck that was being driven aggressively, honking and intimidating other drivers. The truck had a big white sticker on the back of the cab with the OK sign symbol associated with white supremacists.

“There were two men in the driver and passenger seat and they were wearing camo bulletproof vests and they were armed,” she said.

<snip>

In the predawn hours of Friday, KJ Starr watched from her yard in the Seward neighborhood, which has been especially hard hit by arson, as nearby buildings were consumed by balls of fire and billowing smoke.

With police and firefighters nowhere in sight, Starr and friends have been trying to fight fires themselves. When a nearby pizza shop went up in flames, she and some friends walked over to see what they could do. She was terrified by what she saw.

“This pickup truck of a dozen armed men just pulls up next to us,” she said. “I just did a total pivot.”

Arson at a liquor store

Minneapolis resident Rishi Ragoonanan woke up early for work on Friday morning, and saw a man who appeared to be white walk up to boxes of cardboard in the middle of a liquor store parking lot. The man lit the boxes, pushed them up against the wall of the store, and walked away.

Ragoonanan and neighbors ran outside and dragged the flaming boxes away from the wall. The liquor store was set on fire again the next night.

“None of us got any sleep for the last four days, trying to save this liquor store,” Ragoonanan said. “If this liquor catches fire, this whole neighborhood will burn down.”

Many people say they are leery of confronting those they suspect of contributing to the violence.

<snip>

‘They’re setting these fires’

People attending protests against police brutality have had run-ins as well.

DeVario Bogenholm, a 23-year-old who’s lived in Minneapolis for most of his life, blames outsiders, who are mostly white, for turning peaceful protests violent Friday night. He turned to Facebook to post a video of him and a friend confronting a group of young, white men who were smashing out storefront windows.

“Who’s destroying these buildings? These white dudes and we’re stopping them,” his friend, Noah Saba, said to the camera, then waved the phone to show footage of a group of white men on bicycles in front of a group of vandalized and burning buildings, “They’re setting these fires.”

...Bogenholm said the video doesn’t fully capture the mob, with people of color largely at the back of the crowd and young white men initiating the damage to buildings.

<snip>

Hundreds of buildings across the Twin Cities have been damaged in the riots. A native youth cultural center, neighborhood bars and a building full of artist studios (my bold) are among the structures that have been set on fire.

Minneapolis City Council member Jeremiah Ellison spent Friday night driving around his ward to ensure people stayed safe. He said property destruction at protests, which he doesn’t support, normally is focused on symbols of power like police cars.

“When you see no protest, there’s no mob sweeping through the north side, yet you see these fires popping up the main business corridor, that’s the thing that rang odd to me,” Ellison said. “Burning down small black- and immigrant-owned businesses, that doesn’t seem in lockstep with the tone of the protests.”

<snip>

Alexia Kelsey went out to the protest site Friday to help clean. She said the hair on the back of her neck rose after she saw a vehicle carrying two armed white men that had a bumper sticker associated with neo-Nazis.

“As a white ally, it’s even more important to support the black community and provide a unified front,” Kelsey said. “It’s tough because it seems like they’re using the opportunity of the cover of night to really ignite the violence.”

<snip>

“This is no longer about protesting,” said {Minneapolis Mayor, Jacob} Frey. “This is no longer about verbal expression. This is about violence, and we need to make sure that it stops.”

{St. Paul Mayor, Melvin} Carter said that the outside agitators are using peaceful protesters as a “human shield,” committing acts of destruction and violence and then melting back into the crowd.

{Minnesota Governor, Tim} Walz urged Minnesotans to abide by curfews.

“If you’re out after 8 o’clock, you are aiding and abetting them and you are giving them the cover that they want,” Walz said.


Please go to the link to read the whole article! Thank you.
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So, we are terrorists now, ya know. Jamastiene May 2020 #1
Trump can go take a flying leap. (nt) scarletwoman May 2020 #3
What do you do when you are not welcome in your own country any more, Jamastiene May 2020 #9
It's been fucked for over 400 years. scarletwoman May 2020 #13
Yes this. AllyCat May 2020 #43
We are terrorists just as warmfeet May 2020 #48
Strong evidence that orders came from the top Generic Other May 2020 #2
Sorry, but I think that's conspiracy theory nonsense. scarletwoman May 2020 #5
I guess I meant they were encouraged from the top Generic Other May 2020 #11
I heard it too KT2000 May 2020 #17
This was AFTER the destructive shit had already gone on for 2 nights. scarletwoman May 2020 #19
This is an interesting post on Twitter Generic Other May 2020 #51
Remember Michael Cohen, trump doesn't give orders, he speaks in code Walleye May 2020 #16
Agreed Mercurian May 2020 #27
Exactly! You nailed it. wnylib May 2020 #30
So saying MAGANIGHT was just coincidence? Perhaps, but it was a LOUD signal. cayugafalls May 2020 #31
What Trump wants is a good excuse Kaiserguy May 2020 #49
I would expect to see many phone videos showing this. SharonClark May 2020 #4
I embedded one phone link in my OP, but didn't want to take the time to chase down more. scarletwoman May 2020 #12
I've seen four phone videos of white guys destroying while black people try to stop them. tblue37 May 2020 #18
Thank you! My ancient laptop won't play Twitter videos, so - although I can see they exist, scarletwoman May 2020 #20
Why Haven't These Videos been on National Media? MuchBetterThanThis May 2020 #26
I think it's a combo of complicit media outlets, intheflow May 2020 #53
Thanks for posting...info has been hazy. Karadeniz May 2020 #6
I've seen a few similar reports on my Nextdoor news feed. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #7
Thank you! I'm up in Sandstone, MN, so I'm definitely removed from the action. scarletwoman May 2020 #21
Aww, you're missing all the fun! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #22
I know, I know. scarletwoman May 2020 #23
A lot of RW playing at helter-skelter Maeve May 2020 #8
Without video of incidents nothing will happen randr May 2020 #10
Lots of videos showing black clad white men smashing windows Generic Other May 2020 #14
There are videos but they're kind of scattered around in Twitter & Facebook. scarletwoman May 2020 #15
This isn't about Americans protesting anymore. It's about insurgents hijacking America's narrative ancianita May 2020 #24
Well said! scarletwoman May 2020 #25
Spot on! 4chan and Deep Web.... the Insurgents have to be cheering and coordinating... JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2020 #32
I know someone who can do all that. But he says they're a bunch of losers. ancianita May 2020 #38
That is exactly right. But Trump has also been hijacking America's narrative for 3.5 years. cayugafalls May 2020 #34
Not hijacking. TRYING to hijack. We can see how that's been working out. ancianita May 2020 #39
I'll try. I am just so worried. cayugafalls May 2020 #42
It's good to be afraid. It's smart to be vigilant. You save democracy that way. ancianita May 2020 #46
Why did cops let the looting and burning happen? SunSeeker May 2020 #28
For two whole nights they were virtually non-existent. cayugafalls May 2020 #33
Every mayor and police chief should be surveyed on these questions. We can get to the bottom of this ancianita May 2020 #40
I admire your optimism. cayugafalls May 2020 #45
It's doing that alleviates fear. Journalists, the FBI, and other orgs can data collect. It's doable. ancianita May 2020 #47
Thanks for posting this. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #41
Media not showing these white guys, you gotta go on Twitter to see the truth. Plenty there. BamaRefugee May 2020 #29
When we take back this country from these hateful people, BadgerMom May 2020 #35
Amen to that! (nt) scarletwoman May 2020 #36
+1 llmart May 2020 #37
We have to rebuild the DoJ; it's now Dirty Billy Barr's Dirt Services. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #44
one possibility Normanart May 2020 #50
Bookmarking- MPR News piece liberalla May 2020 #52
THANK YOU!! ladym55 May 2020 #54
The pro-Trump KKK at work Blue Owl May 2020 #55
Thanks for posting this, scarletwoman. Keeping it kicked! crickets May 2020 #56
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