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42. Authentic whole-person evaluation portfolios derived from authentic whole-person
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:37 PM
Sep 2012

student assessments and evaluations portfolios.

The organizing architecture should be rationally empirical research as self-directed study in relatively small collaborative communities that are interactive parts of larger communities in which each constituent has its own rights and responsibilities.

http://books.google.com/books/about/Pedagogy_of_the_Oppressed.html?id=xfFXFD414ioC

I'm not sure it's possible to have a "fair" evaluation system on something as complex .... Scuba Sep 2012 #1
Fair Evaluation Test students first day of class on your subject, and last day of class. vinny9698 Sep 2012 #48
Uh, have you ever actually attended school? Chorophyll Sep 2012 #49
How much progress? Same amount for kids in ghettos as kids in burbs? Scuba Sep 2012 #70
Yes, that's a big question. Ed. research usually shows learning always takes place HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #73
And how do we evaluate the progress? knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #76
Why don't we look to Finland, where they reformed their education system and now CTyankee Sep 2012 #2
I'm Finnish tama Sep 2012 #5
I think I read a US based article (linked below) abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #21
Or everybody else, it seems. They are top earners internationally... CTyankee Sep 2012 #24
About 40 years ago tama Sep 2012 #39
Also, don't you pay your teachers like we do our doctors? Cleita Sep 2012 #25
Dunno tama Sep 2012 #41
The fact that you speak English better than a lot of Americans XemaSab Sep 2012 #60
Kiitos :) tama Sep 2012 #63
Good idea Telly Savalas Sep 2012 #22
Thanks for the link tama Sep 2012 #68
Evals are being used a weapons Courtesy Flush Sep 2012 #3
People don't believe this but it's completely true. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #67
In all fairness, unless it's in the contract, there's nothing the union CAN do proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #75
I believe this to be true. No, I'm not a teacher. Scuba Sep 2012 #71
I wish a politician with no teaching experience would come in and tell me how to teach.... Pholus Sep 2012 #4
Student evaluations tama Sep 2012 #7
Spent too much time with the U.S. "students are customers" mentality to ever agree. Pholus Sep 2012 #8
Very perceptive tama Sep 2012 #10
No argument from me on this at all! nt Pholus Sep 2012 #56
Paulo Freire tama Sep 2012 #62
I'd say student evals should be considered, but probably not to the extent you're reacting to Posteritatis Sep 2012 #11
One of my first profs told me how he read his evals and his system works for me. Pholus Sep 2012 #55
Pay and promotions... tama Sep 2012 #74
Grievance history? femmocrat Sep 2012 #9
Bad phrasing, but administrative action for misconduct. Pholus Sep 2012 #54
OK.... a grievance is something a teacher files against the administration. femmocrat Sep 2012 #84
The teachers who work with them probably know best gollygee Sep 2012 #6
Each and every teacher in the CPS system is evaluated already... ancianita Sep 2012 #13
Well said. Iris Sep 2012 #45
Thank you for this exhaustive post. Chorophyll Sep 2012 #50
Your post should be required reading! nt Pholus Sep 2012 #58
Hear, hear! I agree entirely. knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #77
Isn't that a popularity contest? Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #40
So you want to know how to get rid of teachers? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #12
Good point on where the emphasis got placed, there Posteritatis Sep 2012 #18
The problem with our schools must be bad teachers. hay rick Sep 2012 #34
That. All of that. knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #78
It was like that when I started teaching. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #80
Our principal has really changed his attitude this year. knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #81
I think the proposed one was a tenure-busting attempt, which is unacceptable to teachers. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #14
all school districts have evaluation systems ibegurpard Sep 2012 #15
You're exactly right. It's a vicious myth. ancianita Sep 2012 #16
how about leaving it up to the local school board? Hugabear Sep 2012 #17
exactly. ibegurpard Sep 2012 #19
Exactly right. A vicious lie. ancianita Sep 2012 #26
We should study school systems that produce better students than ours and mimic what they do. Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #20
That would be with curriculum. And curriculum is the purview of---wait for it---ADMINISTRATORS. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #27
Curricula are already legally determined by the public of each state. ancianita Sep 2012 #29
CPS teachers have been hip to those schools and 'best practices' for years. ancianita Sep 2012 #28
Union members get the same salaries per step because of prior ADMIN ABUSE. GET IT? WinkyDink Sep 2012 #23
I am not involved in education but here's my .02 abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #30
Tenure/seniority should count for a significant part too. nt abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #31
If this issue is important to you ibegurpard Sep 2012 #32
It sounds good, but logistically, it can't be done. ancianita Sep 2012 #33
Fair enough. abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #37
One reason for relatively poor American academic performance Bluefin Tuna Sep 2012 #35
I agree. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #47
I think so, too. And the failing of parents to instill these things and foster Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #53
Would we get anywhere with basic competency tests and jsmirman Sep 2012 #36
Okay, this is the paragraph that you can't get the CPS board to agree with. ancianita Sep 2012 #38
That is fucking maddening jsmirman Sep 2012 #44
Authentic whole-person evaluation portfolios derived from authentic whole-person patrice Sep 2012 #42
as a career educator I can tell you that we STILL wrestle with that question.... mike_c Sep 2012 #43
I love your response. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #46
as do I ibegurpard Sep 2012 #52
Great post. I wish I could rec it. nt Chorophyll Sep 2012 #51
This makes sense to me. Except I would add one caveat, which is that the family Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #57
right and what kind of teacher evaluation system is going to address failure with that kind of kid? ibegurpard Sep 2012 #59
I think that as a liberal abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #64
who the hell is advocating tossing kids aside??? ibegurpard Sep 2012 #65
Well, you sounded like you were resigned to the fact that some kids don't have the support at home. abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #66
It's okay to have an opinion. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #72
+1. I agree ecstatic Sep 2012 #88
I agree with caveats XemaSab Sep 2012 #61
Phase out the admins and bring in the parents. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #69
Oh, goodness, no. knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #79
If ya got good admins... turnover is bad. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #85
No. They want grades. knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #87
That's what I was thinking, too. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #86
There isn't one. JoeyT Sep 2012 #82
I'm not an educator... so I don't know. Courtesy Flush Sep 2012 #83
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