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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
49. I have some answers
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:39 AM
Jun 2020

1. Protests are only one type of strategy. With protests widespread they do get mention on the news. Near my house is the city of Camden, NJ. The police there have been making efforts to become familiar with residents and plan regular meetings with communities so the people get to know the cops. They had a protest parade. It was peaceful. The police chief marched with them.

Meet with police. Be civil. Meet the mayor and local legislators. Meet with state legislators and mail or email the governor. Go door to door one on one and ask residents to vote and join your cause. No one has come to my door to say anything. I do see lots folks on the news stealing from businesses. Local stores are on fire in Philly. Last night I saw stolen items recovered from a stash house. This borders on organized crime. According to Philly's police chief, some of it is organized crime. She (a black woman) claims there is evidence of the involvement of organized crime in the 30 plus bombings of ATMs across the city.

Produce some PR. Organize with educated articulate folks writing and speaking with the media. Develop a dialog with groups in the communities. Obama was community organizer. Generate press releases, get permits to demonstrate. Advertise. If it works for Walmart and Red Lobster it will work for any real cause. All the laws and punitives for drunk driving didn't change things as much the media work and the designated driver ads.

Sure continue to protest but don't give anyone the excuse to view you as an enemy.

How long? Until you are ready to begin an actual revolution as colonists did in the 18th century.

2. If you feel doing what your doing for another 65 years is a good idea, you have failed to evaluate what's happened making it impossible to apply anything that could be learned. I would be interested to find out how many looters maybe sell those stolen items and donate that money to BLM or another group working to achieve something good. Put some money where your bricks and matches are.

3. Economic pressure will never be the answer in itself. Accountability is what's needed. That will take changes to municipal policy making police accountable. Independent reviews of excessive force with victim support and new laws dealing with the issue are needed.

My daughter is a store manager. If she was assaulted during one of these ill-conceived riots, I would take it very personally. Whatever the supposed cause being rioted for would become my enemy on any level available. I would dedicate the balance of my life to personally ruining the lives of everyone involved.

People in power are learning something this week.
Failing to recognize that you are in power is the first strike against you. Becoming a criminal surrenders your best chance of using that power. The "people in power" are now trying to decide who the enemy really is. Don't make it an easy choice.
1773 colonial times, the colonist had no say or voice in the Kings beachbumbob Jun 2020 #1
How was the Boston Tea Party not looting and rioting? backscatter712 Jun 2020 #3
it just gets more obvious.. stillcool Jun 2020 #9
The looting makes those in power (and privileged sypathizers) uncomfortable. Progressive Law Jun 2020 #17
If they threw the tea into the harbor, is that looting? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #20
The Boston Tea Party was a targetted protest ripcord Jun 2020 #40
Because it isn't rational minds making these arguments Devil Child Jun 2020 #50
Really? PTWB Jun 2020 #4
Except, OP is not equating unfair taxation w/o representation to looting/rioting. Progressive Law Jun 2020 #16
Hmph. History repeats itself . . . again. OneBro Jun 2020 #2
Though my favorite example is Stonewall. backscatter712 Jun 2020 #5
It's more than just property damage customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #6
Until black men are given equal protection and representation by our society and our government PTWB Jun 2020 #7
And when you make suburbanites uncomfortable customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #10
Many of the suburbanites who are uncomfortable with looting StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #21
Tear up the Capitol, police stations, city halls, etc., if you must, but what did this accomplish? Hoyt Jun 2020 #8
+1 DashOneBravo Jun 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author DashOneBravo Jun 2020 #28
Yep throwing tea into a harbor is just like rioting looting jmg257 Jun 2020 #11
Umm... Read what you just wrote again... backscatter712 Jun 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 Jun 2020 #19
When WE do it, we're protesting. When THEY do it, they're rioting StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #24
Or World Champions! jmg257 Jun 2020 #26
Boom StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #30
Cheers!, jmg257 Jun 2020 #31
The Boston Tea Party was specific, targeted and limited Ex Lurker Jun 2020 #12
Freedom is "untidy", Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #13
Sorry judeling Jun 2020 #15
Hmmm PTWB Jun 2020 #18
People Die defending sacred texts, sacred places, lifes work and livelyhoods, we call it noble judeling Jun 2020 #22
Hmmm PTWB Jun 2020 #25
Exactly. We need to address the police brutality and systemic racism. backscatter712 Jun 2020 #33
So have you offered up your car or stuff yet? EllieBC Jun 2020 #23
the hypocrisy is staggering Skittles Jun 2020 #45
They are the very privilege they despise. EllieBC Jun 2020 #47
agreed Skittles Jun 2020 #48
In my city we're talking about small businesses, owned by liberals, milestogo Jun 2020 #29
Were any farmers or workers hurt by the destruction of the tea in the Boston tea party? PTWB Jun 2020 #32
The ships involved lost their entire cargo. backscatter712 Jun 2020 #34
The context is 2020 and you evaded my question. milestogo Jun 2020 #37
The context is 2020 and we are still dealing with this shit. PTWB Jun 2020 #38
it doesn't. It's a symptom.. stillcool Jun 2020 #36
Property damage and violence have often brought about positive change. SideStep Jun 2020 #35
A 105-year-old furniture store was damaged in downtown Raleigh. SMC22307 Jun 2020 #39
Their story is very sympathetic. PTWB Jun 2020 #42
You want to get more people on board with the cause? SMC22307 Jun 2020 #46
Hey, have you set your car on fire yet? mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #41
Going back 200 years black folks... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2020 #43
I have three questions for you... PTWB Jun 2020 #44
I have some answers discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2020 #49
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