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ScratchCat

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28. Its a false narrative
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 10:16 AM
Jun 2020

And false narratives are why the bulk of Americans don't get behind this kind of movement. When otherwise reasonable "white people" see this kind of nonsense blaming themselves for a 50 year old murder, they end up saying "nevermind, let them pretend to be victims" and assume that all calls for justice are also false narratives.

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"We" did? ScratchCat Jun 2020 #1
Good Lord, indeed StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #3
And stop using Lincoln, JFK, RFK, and Gandhi as examples also? kentuck Jun 2020 #164
White supremacy did not kill them the way it killed MLK. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #166
That is a good point. kentuck Jun 2020 #168
"So should we stop using the MLK Jr quote about standing on the mountaintop?" WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #172
It is common for people to use 1 or 2 quotes from MLK JonLP24 Jun 2020 #176
Actually, I wish a lot of white people WOULD stop quoting Dr. King altogether StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #178
Don't try to tell other people what to say or what to think. kentuck Jun 2020 #179
Did you actually read what you wrote before you hit "Post"? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #183
Dr King was effective because he influenced everyone fescuerescue Jun 2020 #190
I'm influenced by the sign JonLP24 Jun 2020 #192
More than two-thirds of America *as a whole* disapproved of King in 1967. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #196
White America only fell in love with Dr. King after he died and was no longer a threat to them StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #199
He was right about the white moderates, for sure. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #200
"I am an ally! Tell me what to do" StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #201
If they're being used to lecture oppressed people how they should respond to their oppression, yes StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #167
Some people are in no position to lecture others. kentuck Jun 2020 #170
Right? mcar Jun 2020 #2
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2020 #4
If this analogy holds FakeNoose Jun 2020 #5
I think you're completely missing the point StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #6
I think that kid is missing several critical ones and Hortensis Jun 2020 #8
Of course you think that StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #11
"White people?" ALL white people? Hortensis Jun 2020 #19
Won't somebody think of the white people? They are the true victims. /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #118
Holy shit. ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #138
It never ends, does it? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #146
You tell 'im hangaleft Jun 2020 #155
I don't feel offended JonLP24 Jun 2020 #156
Why don't you spell out exactly what you're talking about with "indulging"? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #14
Dislike of the assimilation of Dr. King by whites into common culture Hortensis Jun 2020 #32
I want to be clear -- you are saying this kid is "indulging" in "dislike" or "resentment" of MLK WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #33
Go back and read what you just wrote and then think about it the attitude it betrays StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #40
Such irony R B Garr Jun 2020 #59
:) We are agreeing that SOME THINGS SHOULD NOT BE SAID, Hortensis Jun 2020 #120
This. Tipperary Jun 2020 #148
What's the point? Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #10
All white people bear the burden of recognizing how they benefit from white supremacy -- and if that WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #12
No...I do not bear any burden for being white..that's nonsense. Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #24
But I didn't say you bear a burden for being white. I said you bear the burden of white supremacy, WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #30
No, all white people benefit from oppression of other races -- Hortensis Jun 2020 #36
I understand the sentiment expressed in the sign Mosby Jun 2020 #92
I understand it also, and the kid has my support also as he sets out Hortensis Jun 2020 #96
Yes, of course. Why can't that black boy be more like this black girl StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #99
Is your irony intentional? R B Garr Jun 2020 #103
Wow... tonedevil Jun 2020 #116
Wow, such projection R B Garr Jun 2020 #121
Such fragility. /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #123
More projection R B Garr Jun 2020 #125
LOL /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #126
LMAO R B Garr Jun 2020 #128
ROTFLMAO /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #130
....have fun R B Garr Jun 2020 #133
How kind of you. /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #135
Did you just "all sides" racism? ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #129
yes... deal. Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #141
So. What sides are you talking about ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #143
Yup StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #142
I notice ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #144
There are also plenty of white people kcr Jun 2020 #149
I am sorry but "we did not", some racist asshole did and likely for money beachbumbob Jun 2020 #7
YEP. K&R. Also lol at "NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE SHOT MLK." WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #9
Sure as day follows night, right? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #13
Some people just never learn that they don't have to say every thought that comes into their heads. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #22
Or the old "I saw a store get looted..." backscatter712 Jun 2020 #108
I know, right! AleksS Jun 2020 #16
Lots of White people out protesting. pwb Jun 2020 #15
How is it "divisive"? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #17
Dear white people? pwb Jun 2020 #20
White people have the power, though, because we live in a white supremacy. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #23
Please answer my question StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #26
Its a false narrative ScratchCat Jun 2020 #28
"And false narratives are why the bulk of Americans don't get behind this kind of movement." WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #31
Pretend Victimhood movements ScratchCat Jun 2020 #65
Are you saying people who protest systemic racism are pretending to be victims? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #72
The sign purports ScratchCat Jun 2020 #106
Are you looking at a different photo? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #110
Maybe YOU should offer to make the signs that black folk can carry when we're protesting StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #112
That doesn't answer my question StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #38
Who are these fabricated people "walking away R B Garr Jun 2020 #69
Do you mean like besides the ones threatening to do so on this thread? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #73
This is really just fabricated drama at this point. R B Garr Jun 2020 #77
What is fabricated drama? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #80
Post 69 describes the fabrications. R B Garr Jun 2020 #85
Do you generally not believe people with less power than you when they say your actions are hurting WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #89
This OP is the subject, though, which I've already addressed. R B Garr Jun 2020 #95
Post removed Post removed Jun 2020 #159
LOL R B Garr Jun 2020 #161
There is nothing reasonable about people who say/think what you just described JI7 Jun 2020 #162
People don't refuse to "get behind this kind of movement" because of "false narratives" by strangers StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #171
+1 betsuni Jun 2020 #180
They should stop if this sign hurts their feelers, because they're not ready for the fight. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #18
But then how will it be all about them!!!??? AleksS Jun 2020 #21
And how else can they be "cafeteria allies" - fighting for the cause only when it's convenient and StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #25
Oh yes, chastising allies on an internet board is quite the "fight"... Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #34
No, I was saying if people need to tell StarfishSaver about how this sign hurts their feelings, WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #35
Why? Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #37
Disagreeing with the sign and it's message is one thing StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #39
See... we're "whining" now...lol... Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #42
Yes. You're whining StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #43
I found something even more unsurprising AleksS Jun 2020 #48
yeah.."Your team"... Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #51
LOL R B Garr Jun 2020 #71
Oh my god, "your team." Just stop, for chrissakes. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #46
Oh good! You noticed too! AleksS Jun 2020 #50
. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #41
Always amazes me how people become whatever it is they focus their hate on. k2qb3 Jun 2020 #27
Care to elaborate? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #45
exactly fescuerescue Jun 2020 #191
K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #29
Based on this thread, this article needs its own OP! AleksS Jun 2020 #44
No, I don't ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #56
Post removed Post removed Jun 2020 #47
Exactly... Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #53
+1, Obama mentioned the unity yesterday. R B Garr Jun 2020 #55
++++1000 R B Garr Jun 2020 #54
This belongs here. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #49
"If his sign makes you uncomfortable then maybe it should." Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #52
10000x this yes! AleksS Jun 2020 #57
+1000 StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #62
I was taught to think about why something made me Solly Mack Jun 2020 #84
But, you are doing the same thing you oppose. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2020 #150
Identifying white supremacy does not dehumanize white people. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #151
No. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2020 #153
So if you know the sign doesn't apply to you, why do you object to it? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #154
Amen! Anyone really in the fight needs to embrace being uncomfortable... nt Blasphemer Jun 2020 #58
Yes. Change brings discomfort. Embrace it. Learn from Solly Mack Jun 2020 #75
Thank you so much for this StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #61
You're welcome. The unity now is great. But... Solly Mack Jun 2020 #74
Yes. nt cry baby Jun 2020 #64
Thank you. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #90
rec. Excellent post, TY. MerryBlooms Jun 2020 #67
Thank you Solly Mack Jun 2020 #76
Thank you ibegurpard Jun 2020 #136
You're welcome. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #137
Thanks for your post. theaocp Jun 2020 #139
I do like lollipops. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #140
Exactly JonLP24 Jun 2020 #158
As a white woman, it breaks my heart that the black community cry baby Jun 2020 #60
THANK YOU StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #63
I'm going to do better, learn more. cry baby Jun 2020 #68
All we can do us try. But it's important that we do try. Solly Mack Jun 2020 #78
LOOK AT THIS BOY'S FACE, DAMMIT! StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #66
LOL R B Garr Jun 2020 #79
What the fuck is this shit right here. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #81
Nice try. R B Garr Jun 2020 #82
I've read the transcript and I didn't see anything about him recommending people laugh at Black WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #86
He didn't fabricate anything either. R B Garr Jun 2020 #87
What actions are you going to take as a result of his speech? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #91
More assumptions. This helps to show the R B Garr Jun 2020 #94
No assumptions here at all. You just kept talking about Obama's speech and how it's the approach WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #97
Yet more assumptions. R B Garr Jun 2020 #98
What did you like about his talk? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #100
It was the opposite of what this OP is implying. R B Garr Jun 2020 #102
Okay, so you're happy to hear that the protestors are diverse. That works. Here's how I see it. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #105
And all these points are just assumptions R B Garr Jun 2020 #109
I ask questions so I don't make assumptions. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #115
We're not clueless racists here, so no need for the R B Garr Jun 2020 #152
Sometimes when someone is shown an image or idea that is cry baby Jun 2020 #88
Expecting to be "given time for the message to sink in" drips in privilege, don't you think StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #104
Absolutely. Privilege doesn't disappear instantly. Most don't even realize it cry baby Jun 2020 #107
Who are these fabricated people "threatening" R B Garr Jun 2020 #114
Reading is fundamental - and fun StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #117
Such irony R B Garr Jun 2020 #119
Irony must have been your vocabulary word of the day. StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #122
Same can he said about your fabrications R B Garr Jun 2020 #124
And "fabrication" must be your bonus word StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #131
LOL, back to your grammar tut tuts instead of answering R B Garr Jun 2020 #134
The FBI was probably behind his shooting. milestogo Jun 2020 #70
Powerful. Sogo Jun 2020 #83
I think MLK would disagree with this DIVINEprividence Jun 2020 #93
Ummm StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #101
Umm indeed R B Garr Jun 2020 #111
There are a lot of... tonedevil Jun 2020 #113
This thread ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #127
I see the same thing. /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #132
100% nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #177
I'll admit it, a couple of years ago, I'd have said "NOT ME!" Bettie Jun 2020 #145
Thank you for this StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #147
Of course your post is needed. It's kind this young man communicates at all. Judi Lynn Jun 2020 #157
I find it really troubling that not one person who swarmed here to attack the message offered any StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #160
K&R betsuni Jun 2020 #163
STOP THE HATE means... kentuck Jun 2020 #165
Calling out white supremacy is not hatred. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #169
White people killing black folk and black folk demanding that white people stop killing black folk StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #173
Exactly. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #175
You reallly want to go down this road? Really? Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #187
LOL StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #189
It's not a BIG SUPER SECRET that crime is intraracial. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #193
It is also common for right wingers to bring up JonLP24 Jun 2020 #194
Unfortunately, I'm not surprised StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #197
Everyone is not a white supremacist. kentuck Jun 2020 #174
"The oppression is real. How do we end it?" StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #181
Whatever solutions we come up with, it must be together. kentuck Jun 2020 #184
Black people cannot dismantle white supremacy, nor can they make white people stop being racist. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #185
Black people didn't create a white supremicist society in which we live, white people did and PunkinPi Jun 2020 #186
That's not a solution StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #198
Argumentative. kentuck Jun 2020 #203
+++ hlthe2b May 2021 #217
"Everyone is not a white supremacist." WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #182
Yea that will help bring us together fescuerescue Jun 2020 #188
What will help bring you into the fight against racism? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #195
Why do you assume he/we are not fighting? Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #202
Maybe because we've seen absolutely no evidence that you're actually "fighting racism" StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #204
So you think that racism needs to be "fought here"? Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #205
Thank you, and the shameful distortion of hiding behind a R B Garr Jun 2020 #208
Racism must be fought everywhere. This country is built on a scaffold of white supremacy, and we've WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #209
Wow irisblue Jun 2020 #211
anonymous Keyboard warriors fescuerescue Jun 2020 #216
and, lol...you've been on this site for 10 minutes... Fix The Stupid Jun 2020 #207
What are you doing to dismantle white supremacy? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #206
It's not this child's job to "bring us together" StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #212
clearly fescuerescue Jun 2020 #215
Signs like these never bothered me, because I know which group it's referring to. Lancero Jun 2020 #210
I'm black and I am happy when white people quote him Polybius Jun 2020 #213
It's often very nice and inspiring when white people quote him StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #214
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