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In reply to the discussion: I have been doing some research into the question of whether Ambassador Stevens was gay [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)134. Put it this way, I protested against the War in Vietnam.
Your point about family privacy is valid, but I really don't understand how speculating on if someone was LGBT shows any disrespect for the dead, but apparently, you feel that it does.
Being LGBT is nothing at all like being an alcoholic, or cheating on your partner, or even all about sex.
Your comparison of being LGBT with negative things like alcohol addiction or adultery indicates that you believe that there is something inherently wrong with a person being LGBT.
Being LGBT is a condition of birth, and not a nasty character flaw.
FYI:
Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). Definitions refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, irrational fear, and hatred.[1][2][3][4] In a 1998 address, author, activist, and civil rights leader Coretta Scott King stated that "Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood."[5]
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Homophobia manifests in different forms, and a number of different types have been postulated, among which are internalized homophobia, social homophobia, emotional homophobia, rationalized homophobia, and others.[20] There were also ideas to classify homophobia, racism, and sexism as an intolerant personality disorder.[21]
Homophobia has never been listed as part of a clinical taxonomy of phobias, neither in Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) or International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD); homophobia is usually used in a non-clinical sense.[22]
In 1992, the American Psychiatric Association, recognizing the power of the stigma against homosexuality, issued the following statement, reaffirmed by the Board of Trustees, July 2011: Whereas homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgment, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) calls on all international health organizations, psychiatric organizations, and individual psychiatrists in other countries to urge the repeal in their own countries of legislation that penalizes homosexual acts by consenting adults in private. Further, APA calls on these organizations and individuals to do all that is possible to decrease the stigma related to homosexuality wherever and whenever it may occur.[23]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia
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Homophobia manifests in different forms, and a number of different types have been postulated, among which are internalized homophobia, social homophobia, emotional homophobia, rationalized homophobia, and others.[20] There were also ideas to classify homophobia, racism, and sexism as an intolerant personality disorder.[21]
Homophobia has never been listed as part of a clinical taxonomy of phobias, neither in Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) or International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD); homophobia is usually used in a non-clinical sense.[22]
In 1992, the American Psychiatric Association, recognizing the power of the stigma against homosexuality, issued the following statement, reaffirmed by the Board of Trustees, July 2011: Whereas homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgment, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) calls on all international health organizations, psychiatric organizations, and individual psychiatrists in other countries to urge the repeal in their own countries of legislation that penalizes homosexual acts by consenting adults in private. Further, APA calls on these organizations and individuals to do all that is possible to decrease the stigma related to homosexuality wherever and whenever it may occur.[23]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia
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I have been doing some research into the question of whether Ambassador Stevens was gay [View all]
dsc
Sep 2012
OP
Most of Libya loved and respected him. The Muslim terrorists that killed him would have killed
appleannie1
Sep 2012
#1
I believe that if he wanted his sexual orientation "shared", he would have done it himself.
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#24
What he wanted to remain hidden in life is not necessarily what he might want hidden in death
Major Nikon
Sep 2012
#40
That's about as weak as your assumption that he had that wish in the first place
Major Nikon
Sep 2012
#121
No dude, Privacy in any personal matter trumps your "right" to know. Choice matters.
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#55
And only right-wingers jump to the conclusion about gay people having an "agenda"
joeybee12
Sep 2012
#140
Well you can guess all you want, but to me outing a dead guy isn't a discussion of sex.
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#66
I don't believe you know anything about how onecent thinks of gays or lesbians
Angry Dragon
Sep 2012
#13
yes poor onccent says being gay is a choice and we big bullies that we are get mad
dsc
Sep 2012
#220
Yes and no. I am a proud straight gay rights supporter. My nieces chose when to come out.
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#27
A hissy fit? Red State alert. I do know about him. All he chose for me to know.
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#63
Maybe. Maybe not. But it's not the issue right now. He was murdered. That's the issue.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#93
Apparently, on DU, it's not cool to vilify gays directly but we must respect a religion
lamzydivy
Sep 2012
#61
And yet you're the only person who has said he was 52 years old in this thread
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#173
You appear to be doding the point about you leaping to conclusions
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#194
You challenged me on his being 52 as if an internet search was required for that.
former9thward
Sep 2012
#208
"So any reasonable person would conclude that he is most likely gay"
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#218
"A 52 year old who is educated and has social/political skills and is straight...
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#221
"substantial female relationships"? Now you're adding new qualifiers
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#223
WTF? This is a man who never said he was gay; his brother says he had many girlfriends;
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#247
Nothing was obvious in your posts because until this one they didn't total 10 words.
former9thward
Sep 2012
#255
I, too, did some research. I asked myself, "Do you care if Ambassador Stevens was gay?"
Buzz Clik
Sep 2012
#88
oooo, I hit a nerve, didn't I? Sorry ~ but there's really no need for you to be so mean and hurtful.
Zorra
Sep 2012
#131
You usually find right-wing sites comparing homosexuality to illnesses like alcoholism...
joeybee12
Sep 2012
#139
Perhaps I should have said...for whatever reason...things we choose to keep private
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#163
Being straight is not something that has been institutionally stigmatized in cultures by bigots
Zorra
Sep 2012
#167
Please delete this OP--the right wing blogs are printing absolutely false and inflamatory
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#101
What is this circumstantial evidence that makes you think the RWers might be right?
Incitatus
Sep 2012
#135
Probably that he was single. I'm a single woman and people assume I'm lesbian all the time.
kestrel91316
Sep 2012
#229
If he was gay that's incidental and hardly likely to the reason he was targetted
dipsydoodle
Sep 2012
#147
I wondered about this myself. Thanks for opening it up. ( i.e. the question.)
Smarmie Doofus
Sep 2012
#159
I would care if he didn't want to publicly acknowledge his marriage and then died in the public eye.
Walk away
Sep 2012
#242
? Confused here. I thought "out" means, self-identified to others as gay. What don't
patrice
Sep 2012
#197
Okay, I'm not up on this. Have seen nothing more about the possible security breech. Link?
patrice
Sep 2012
#200
I was saddened by the death of a former Peace Corps volunteer and from what I know
MatthewStLouis
Sep 2012
#216
Who says he's "obsessed" and what "scandal" would he want to stir up? n/t
Smarmie Doofus
Sep 2012
#245
All of a sudden, since the Ambassadors death, disussion threads on DU and other websites, seem
avebury
Sep 2012
#249
This thread's getting pulled all over the place. OP did not, and would never question the following:
Smarmie Doofus
Sep 2012
#251
You don't give a fuck that right wingers are trying to say that Stevens should not
renie408
Sep 2012
#227
Sorry. I am only accepting responses that ask me if I give a fuck at this time.
L0oniX
Sep 2012
#236