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iemitsu

(3,891 posts)
69. myths need to be explained and understood
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:50 AM
Sep 2012

so that people's lives are not constrained by superstition but myths, themselves, are not bad. imo mythology helps one figure out what it means to be human. like literature, myths explain much about being a being, they provide models for living with ourselves and others, and myths structure our daily and yearly calendars. they permeate every rite of passage in every human's life. they are important. they just aren't based on anything demonstratively true. myths are not science. they are magic.

about the propaganda drop, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him read.
knowledge acquisition is a tricky thing. religion is not the only thing that gets in the way of learning.
cognitive dissonance is one example of "things that get in the way of learning". its not a product of religion its just the way we work.

rioting because someone has insulted one's god ought to be discouraged. rioting does nothing to establish truth. it is a mob behavior usually inspired by someone who does not have the mobs interests in mind.
rioting is like the mini-version of the wars we wage to bully others into doing things our way.

making and distributing insulting films ought to be discouraged too. this particular one is hateful.

we all labor under the yoke of some system or another. we don't choose the political, social, economic, religious, etc. circumstances that dictate our realities. we need to remember that most people have very little control over the situations and events that they are a part of.

in each of these events there is someone or several someones who are guiding the events.
the film insulted everyone (including me). not everyone instinctively riots when insulted.

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I just think it would be a good idea ..... oldhippie Sep 2012 #1
Really. Cha Sep 2012 #51
I think it would work best if you did that to EVERY religion Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #2
Amen to that! nt Speck Tater Sep 2012 #4
+1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Sep 2012 #78
Okay. You are wrong. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #3
Some people just look for a reason to riot former-republican Sep 2012 #5
Yes. abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #45
And then some people get the government they deserve former-republican Sep 2012 #50
I would take it a step further.. snooper2 Sep 2012 #6
lol glad you thought about the getting shot down bit. loli phabay Sep 2012 #8
myths need to be explained and understood iemitsu Sep 2012 #69
It's hard to understand the concept of free speech if you've never had the privilege experiencing nc4bo Sep 2012 #7
Then the cure is to expose them to free speech so they can learn. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #9
I know Speck Tater. nc4bo Sep 2012 #11
It might backfire the other way Bluefin Tuna Sep 2012 #10
Welcome to DU! That would be my concern. Never did like picking scabs. calimary Sep 2012 #29
During Chimpy's rule, it was called something else. sad sally Sep 2012 #12
I agree wholeheartedly. Nothing else has worked. Nay Sep 2012 #13
Problem is they aren't rioting because of religion SmileyRose Sep 2012 #14
They are exercising their free speech RobertEarl Sep 2012 #17
So the solution to their intolerance... Speck Tater Sep 2012 #30
Heh RobertEarl Sep 2012 #37
That video was only broadcast in the Middle East, by an Egyptian commentator Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #81
I believe it has more to do with religious intolerance than you think JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #21
Yeah? Think the next families to lose their loved ones will thank you? MichiganVote Sep 2012 #15
I agree with you completely. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #16
Go ahead. Let us know if your theory turns out to be correct. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #18
Stunning Ignorance. Stunning Entitlement and Superiority. cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #19
They may take the term "scorched Earth" literally JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #20
would they also need a free press? Johonny Sep 2012 #22
That is a dumb idea. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2012 #23
How about just treating their beliefs with the same respect we expect for ours. DrewFlorida Sep 2012 #24
You mean like the respect we at DU give to Republican beliefs? nt Speck Tater Sep 2012 #31
You are confusing lies with beliefs! DrewFlorida Sep 2012 #40
LOL, what beliefs are you talking about? Logical Sep 2012 #46
Imagine there's no heaven? It isn't hard to do. No hell below us. Above us only blue. DrewFlorida Sep 2012 #70
Experiment on a child first - single one out and call him "stupid little shit" every day bhikkhu Sep 2012 #25
Thank you for the apt analogy. I am finding it difficult to be on DU right now due to the bigotry & uppityperson Sep 2012 #27
So I'm supposed to feel sorry for some violent troglodyte who kills our people? Speck Tater Sep 2012 #34
Not at all, but its rare individuals who commit the crime bhikkhu Sep 2012 #38
I know that you are right. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #39
WWJD? abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #52
WWMD? Speck Tater Sep 2012 #53
The only story I know off the top of my head about the prophet is abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #60
Wow! He's a hero. I guess I'll convert to Islam. nt Speck Tater Sep 2012 #63
The bigger problem is not just "insults to religion" but how they have been treated by uppityperson Sep 2012 #26
I'll let you know as soon as I become desensitized to them Live and Learn Sep 2012 #28
Well I knew it would not be a popular idea. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #32
OK, let's see what happens with your approach tama Sep 2012 #33
Fine. If there's nothing we can do to bring peace to the region Speck Tater Sep 2012 #35
Just an experiment tama Sep 2012 #36
The Lenny Bruce gambit - GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #73
Thanks for the vid :) tama Sep 2012 #74
Wrong!!! nt Duppers Sep 2012 #41
You're wrong RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #42
Well, I guess that settles it then. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #44
Or we could just try to make their lives better abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #43
It's my understanding Speck Tater Sep 2012 #47
Sigh abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #57
See my post #39 above Speck Tater Sep 2012 #61
Best way to do that tama Sep 2012 #54
Agreed. abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #58
LOL tama Sep 2012 #66
or maybe we could just quit bombing them, invading and occupying their countries, & badmouthing HiPointDem Sep 2012 #48
Indeed... n/t KoKo Sep 2012 #82
We could end Middle Est Violence Tommorow shintao Sep 2012 #49
I agree. That solution is better than mine, but Speck Tater Sep 2012 #55
That's already happening to every religion, every country, every ethnicity, every belief; every day. drm604 Sep 2012 #56
Because some folk in the Arab media picked it up and pushed it as provocation. dimbear Sep 2012 #64
Exactly. drm604 Sep 2012 #65
There are probably daily insults to Islam. joshcryer Sep 2012 #59
That's already happening. Every day, all over the world, people are insulting pnwmom Sep 2012 #62
I can do better than that: Maybe THEY ain't the ones with a fucking problem. nt The Midway Rebel Sep 2012 #67
I like it. Who's in charge? Kablooie Sep 2012 #68
This is the stupidist idea I've heard yet on this subject cali Sep 2012 #71
Its already destroying lives and relationships in case you hadn't noticed 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #72
I thought I was clear: this "idea" would make things much, much, much worse cali Sep 2012 #76
You're full of it. slampoet Sep 2012 #75
Do you think that would work Frances Sep 2012 #77
And then they'll learn to love us and we'll all live happily ever after lunatica Sep 2012 #79
When we see an end to the annual outrage over the "War on Christmas" bigbrother05 Sep 2012 #80
let's 'desensitize' our own Christian Fundamentalists here in the US!! then if the program is piratefish08 Sep 2012 #83
I'll drink a Dr. Pepper to your proposal! n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #87
Sure, why wouldn't we agree with something that gets a lot of people killed, like last week CreekDog Sep 2012 #84
I totally get your point, and it's very tempting to do just that, kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #85
I used to get posts hidden or deleted by mods for referring to God as an "imaginary sky-daddy" backscatter712 Sep 2012 #86
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