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hunter

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37. Perhaps we need very well trained and impeccably honest state police...

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:22 PM

Jun 2020

... who can temporarily step in whenever it's necessary to disband and a rebuild a rotten police or sheriffs department.

Many highly regarded democracies such as New Zealand simply don't have local police or sheriff departments and enjoy very low levels of institutional corruption.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police

These might serve as a model.

It ought to be easy to fire rotten cops and disband entirely rotten police departments without bullshit threats of anarchy from corrupt, violent, and racist police or their unions.

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On Abolishing or Defunding Police Departments [View all] MineralMan Jun 2020 OP

Defunding or abolishing police departments oswaldactedalone Jun 2020 #1

Crap, eh? MineralMan Jun 2020 #2

OK then oswaldactedalone Jun 2020 #3

Um. The entire post is about reform. KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #12

Agreed. it's very misguied messaging (at best). themaguffin Jun 2020 #34

Concision and spareseness Nature Man Jun 2020 #4

Thank you for your criticism. MineralMan Jun 2020 #16

Well... you're new to this. Give it some time, I'm sure you'll improve. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #20

I sure hope so! MineralMan Jun 2020 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Nature Man Jun 2020 #32

I got the message, it is right and on target. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #19

Absolutely! Zambero Jun 2020 #5

Agree this wills are the hell out of many. Way too nuanced. Dream Girl Jun 2020 #9

Police departments are overfunded. PTWB Jun 2020 #11

This Calculating Jun 2020 #13

Poll: Cut funding for police departments - 16% Support and 65% Oppose maximusveritas Jun 2020 #6

The same polls are finding that 70% of people feel that Trump's Blue_true Jun 2020 #25

I favor mass re-training Bayard Jun 2020 #7

As I was growing up, I came to understand that the surest way to give Blue_true Jun 2020 #22

If your police force has... tonedevil Jun 2020 #38

De-militarize the police. Squinch Jun 2020 #8

Bad Police Departments just Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #10

How about a middle path? How about de-militarize the police? How about diverting some money to... Yavin4 Jun 2020 #14

The same politicians that are sending money to police departments are Blue_true Jun 2020 #28

It worked in tiny town Kentucky. KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #15

Thank you for that example. MineralMan Jun 2020 #17

Defunding is a horrible idea and if our side embraces that, we lose. Blue_true Jun 2020 #18

Before any of that can be done, local officials need to MineralMan Jun 2020 #23

You know, I really hate to follow his lead. Blue_true Jun 2020 #29

Typically, it is actually very difficult to fire a police officer at all. MineralMan Jun 2020 #30

Part of the process would require voiding parts of civil service laws that protect bad apples. Blue_true Jun 2020 #33

Break 'em up like a bad corporation Blue_Adept Jun 2020 #24

Yes. MineralMan Jun 2020 #26

A good start is to crush the corrupt copper unions via RICO Act statutes Celerity Jun 2020 #27

Racist thugs, violent terrorists, unaccountable tyrants dalton99a Jun 2020 #31

A police reform commission by the next administration is in order. nt oasis Jun 2020 #35

We have to remember that we are the police. If we elect racist thugs to public office they will Vinca Jun 2020 #36

Perhaps we need very well trained and impeccably honest state police... hunter Jun 2020 #37