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159. Plenty of people are saying "defund the police"

Tue Jun 9, 2020, 12:18 AM

Jun 2020

including Minneapolis city council and protesters, but it has just become a slogan that has no definition. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows it doesn't mean abolish the police. But it is the kind of thing perfectly designed for social media.

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Sorry but "Defund the Police" is just dumb messaging [View all] DIVINEprividence Jun 2020 OP

We need to come out 100% against this idea. OrlandoDem2 Jun 2020 #1

It's a technical term that doesn't mean what it sounds like. Hortensis Jun 2020 #65

The Repubs love it and will be pinning the term Bev54 Jun 2020 #70

Better: Make lemonade from the attention and get people on board Hortensis Jun 2020 #78

People don't have a long attention span Bev54 Jun 2020 #84

We'll have to see what those on the front lines who've Hortensis Jun 2020 #88

I agree out of the box it was problematic herding cats Jun 2020 #156

Frank Zappa - "Watch out where the huskies go. Don't you eat BrightKnight Jun 2020 #153

I know. Unfortunately most wont bother to try to understand the nuance. OrlandoDem2 Jun 2020 #91

Oh, I don't know. Defund ALL police? Only willfully Hortensis Jun 2020 #97

I agree then it shouldn't be said. Oppaloopa Jun 2020 #118

:) Oop, with that lemon already out there, time to make lemonade. Hortensis Jun 2020 #144

If you understood the concept it would be helpful...here, maybe this will help. NotHardly Jun 2020 #129

What David Sirota Wrote StClone Jun 2020 #165

Hannity is hammering this hard right now nt Ex Lurker Jun 2020 #154

His on-screen Old White Guy rage and Mental Masturbation gets old StClone Jun 2020 #166

Biden isn't proposing to defund the police. LisaL Jun 2020 #2

True. Goodheart Jun 2020 #3

I happen to agree. Change is necessary, but as usual, our messaging sucks. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #4

Eh, it creates intrigue, whereas "reform" feels weak as water soothsayer Jun 2020 #17

Reform is infinetely better than the word "defund" themaguffin Jun 2020 #63

How about "repeal and replace"? Where have I heard that one before? /nt flibbitygiblets Jun 2020 #104

No it doesn't. It scares the shit out of people. nt BlueLucy Jun 2020 #125

+1 Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #127

Hell, look at the phrase "White Privilege" The Mouth Jun 2020 #111

That is a sure way to get NOTHING BlueLucy Jun 2020 #5

Agreed, it's clumsy -- and inaccurate soothsayer Jun 2020 #6

Heard it on that video where mayor of Minneapolis LisaL Jun 2020 #12

Oh yeah, the walk of shame. He looked sad. soothsayer Jun 2020 #33

It made me sad just watching it renate Jun 2020 #38

I know and he looked especially young there soothsayer Jun 2020 #52

I didn't realize that he was a mayor of Minneapolis at first. LisaL Jun 2020 #82

WTF? I keep seeing this BS.... stillcool Jun 2020 #7

If you have to parse and explain, especially in an election year, - you lose. empedocles Jun 2020 #11

Biden is leading by 11 points at least JonLP24 Jun 2020 #21

Only if people vote still_one Jun 2020 #45

Biden is leading by 7 points. milestogo Jun 2020 #46

Thanks JonLP24 Jun 2020 #50

were the beef? Cryptoad Jun 2020 #92

+++ still_one Jun 2020 #42

what history book is that in? stillcool Jun 2020 #43

History of Bernie 'explaining' - 'socialism'? empedocles Jun 2020 #81

Well, at least it wasn't a sign at protests... stillcool Jun 2020 #99

Good. You seem 'stillcool' empedocles Jun 2020 #132

not today.... stillcool Jun 2020 #136

You're good empedocles Jun 2020 #137

After this, therefor because of this, eh? LanternWaste Jun 2020 #138

Check out BLM street mural in DC... lame54 Jun 2020 #27

Good for them. What else was written? stillcool Jun 2020 #39

Is "don't vote" okay too? Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #62

whose message is it? stillcool Jun 2020 #66

Here it is Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #77

I have no problem with that at all....Why do you? stillcool Jun 2020 #94

I had a problem with his position on not voting to cause change Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #105

You have a problem with his past ideas.. stillcool Jun 2020 #108

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #117

I don't think I have a problem with reading comprehension... stillcool Jun 2020 #130

So you're worried about non-collective, individual sentiments... LanternWaste Jun 2020 #139

It's out there and it's not helpful themaguffin Jun 2020 #64

Who is putting it 'out there'? stillcool Jun 2020 #69

What do you mean "who?" Have you not seen pictures from protests or have friends who themaguffin Jun 2020 #74

I've seen all kinds of signs at protests... stillcool Jun 2020 #85

I'm not speaking about "signs" I'm talking about the election. Jesus Fucking Christ themaguffin Jun 2020 #123

oh now see....I didn't get that stillcool Jun 2020 #131

Nope. That's not what I said, but your immaturity is noted. themaguffin Jun 2020 #145

Not to any real degree of concern... except by those pretending otherwise. LanternWaste Jun 2020 #140

The entire notion of the "police" needs to be rethought budkin Jun 2020 #67

I got a text from some parents group asking me to support "defunding the police" LeftInTX Jun 2020 #149

Plenty of people are saying "defund the police" Steelrolled Jun 2020 #159

Some people say that? pwb Jun 2020 #8

It was added to the dc blm mural... lame54 Jun 2020 #25

Led Zeppelin logo was added too. LanternWaste Jun 2020 #142

I agree; same for "disband." It's not what anyone intends, but The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #9

Great post! scarletwoman Jun 2020 #100

This really is a very good post. nt coti Jun 2020 #168

I agree Catherine Vincent Jun 2020 #10

yes, very unfortunate and could affect the election itself. Grasswire2 Jun 2020 #13

I don't think "we" made the term soothsayer Jun 2020 #44

"If we have to explain the slogan it's a loser" renate Jun 2020 #49

Just like the Publicans call laws taking away the power of the workers by calling it safeinOhio Jun 2020 #95

Agreed lame54 Jun 2020 #14

It's good as an over-the-top threat (to then back off of). gulliver Jun 2020 #15

That catch phrase was probably created by the GOP ecstatic Jun 2020 #16

. . . Or some angry type speechifying to a similiar angry audience. empedocles Jun 2020 #18

Nope. I've been extremely angry but that doesn't ecstatic Jun 2020 #28

Now 'the Hill' reports that 'Biden campaign opposes 'defund the police' empedocles Jun 2020 #79

That was my first thought too. nt Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #22

Probably the same idiots who were the first to bite on the 'OK' sign The Mouth Jun 2020 #113

Definitely agree nt Raine Jun 2020 #19

STUPID IDEA zak247 Jun 2020 #20

The black community is already defunded JonLP24 Jun 2020 #26

The left really needs to employ good copywriters, Neema Jun 2020 #23

If people are still saying "all lives matter" they are showing they are either racist or they dont g JonLP24 Jun 2020 #41

Yes of course now it's willful ignorance, but when Neema Jun 2020 #143

IMHO, it's a perfect phrase for the MSM to use grumpyduck Jun 2020 #24

It's a terrible message. democrank Jun 2020 #29

Agreed exboyfil Jun 2020 #30

Thank you for your concern gratuitous Jun 2020 #31

Police are important to a community. Just recently they helped rescue an older gentleman AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2020 #32

Same shit happened with "Abolish ICE" genxlib Jun 2020 #34

Moronic messaging by protesters. gives ammunition to right wingers. Maybe it was their idea ? dsp3000 Jun 2020 #35

And what's even dumber is they don't even mean it. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #36

Yeah, I hope people are not disappointed when Joe Biden does bullwinkle428 Jun 2020 #37

Ha, good soothsayer Jun 2020 #48

Fox just read the "Not Biden" statement soothsayer Jun 2020 #58

Yeah, Biden knows better than to use that as a slogan. backscatter712 Jun 2020 #135

I haven't seen anything by the police... tonedevil Jun 2020 #40

welllll. i like it better than torch the police. mopinko Jun 2020 #47

Whoever came up with this is a real dumbass. lynintenn Jun 2020 #51

any town can disband, defund, or do any damn thing they want.. stillcool Jun 2020 #54

I have already heard my older friends shocked that Democrats want to "do away with police". Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #53

One thing about the defund the police movement... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2020 #55

FTP & ACAB Coventina Jun 2020 #56

Agreed. It's a loser. Captain Stern Jun 2020 #57

Completely agreed. There needs to be a simple reform message, but that ain't it. coti Jun 2020 #59

"De-escalate Policing"? Pretty vague. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #60

Your Last One Is My Favorite ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #98

"Repeal and Replace the Police"? Borrow a page from the Rethug playbook? flibbitygiblets Jun 2020 #106

Ground up rebuilding of some departments perhaps but BrightKnight Jun 2020 #151

My personal choice for slogans is "Police the police!" backscatter712 Jun 2020 #61

As Slogans go That is a very good one. Concise and true. n/t MarcA Jun 2020 #96

Dumb messaging and it will be weaponized peggysue2 Jun 2020 #68

Alternative: "Fully fund all community safety programs" Fiendish Thingy Jun 2020 #71

Biden campaign opposes calls to "defund the police" budkin Jun 2020 #72

Rightsize the police. Tactical Peek Jun 2020 #73

"Restructure Policing" makes more sense and covers more ground. n/t TygrBright Jun 2020 #75

Accountability, accountability, accountability. Efilroft Sul Jun 2020 #76

George Takei suggested TNNurse Jun 2020 #80

I agree COMPLETELY! BobTheSubgenius Jun 2020 #83

Already "Face of racism"Carlson is screaming out the lies of dreamland Jun 2020 #86

I like "Demilitarize the police" IronLionZion Jun 2020 #87

I like Reinvesting Police Cryptoad Jun 2020 #93

That sounds like you're moving bad officers around IronLionZion Jun 2020 #103

One of the worst branding ideas ever. It's almost like whoever thought of it pnwmom Jun 2020 #89

Agreed,,,,, what the old saying Cryptoad Jun 2020 #90

It Has All Of The Appeal Of Fingernails On A Chalkboard DallasNE Jun 2020 #101

The next mass shooting, which will happen, guess what they will blame? GusBob Jun 2020 #102

I was a cop 100 years ago MosheFeingold Jun 2020 #107

right now police are funded 100 times more tha any other service in jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #109

I agree. Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #110

It's so dumb I think the Aniti-Antifa crowd came up with it rocktivity Jun 2020 #112

Some allies are running with it and it needs to stop. BrightKnight Jun 2020 #148

Kamala Harris' take on "defunding" from her appearance on The View this morning: George II Jun 2020 #114

Yeah, defunding the police is a really bad idea. PatrickforO Jun 2020 #115

It's time to reallocate funds away from hardware and military style training, Magoo48 Jun 2020 #116

dems are terrible at marketing AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #119

Yes Reform, Modernize, Redefine , Enhance, Realign. Fla Dem Jun 2020 #120

Which is the literal essence of what Biden said today. herding cats Jun 2020 #157

Agree Sugarcoated Jun 2020 #121

Yes and no Warpy Jun 2020 #122

Disagree. No backing up when you're right. That's losing. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #124

Demilitarize the police is what they need to be saying, it just doesn't roll off of the tongue. xyoungblood Jun 2020 #126

I think defund is accurate. if you can slash 100 to 150 million from the LAPDs funding and still jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #133

The people are not a monolith Politicub Jun 2020 #128

Sorry but "Defund the Police" isn't messaging from anyone or any group of note. LanternWaste Jun 2020 #134

I think MoveOn was running it on Facebook. Dumb nt BrightKnight Jun 2020 #150

Whether you agree with the phrase or not, theaocp Jun 2020 #141

I'm glad the phrase is out there. Ron Green Jun 2020 #146

Horrible and meaningless - There will be paid law enforcement BrightKnight Jun 2020 #147

Another radical thing zak247 Jun 2020 #152

In a lot of cases, I have some sympathy for the police The Mouth Jun 2020 #163

100% Agree BadGimp Jun 2020 #155

A better rallying cry would be "Fund social workers!" NNadir Jun 2020 #158

Police the police. roamer65 Jun 2020 #160

I completely agree. Sloumeau Jun 2020 #161

"Defund the Police" is a slogan created by a right-wing think tank Wednesdays Jun 2020 #162

"Make The Police Better". How zentrum Jun 2020 #164

I agree. I suspect some more excited protestors used the phrase, and did indeed intend it to mean Nitram Jun 2020 #167

Agree 100% - it needs to be about changing and reforming - not dismantling and de-funding Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2020 #169