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Hortensis

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48. Cops have a duty to protect and serve people when drunk,

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

Jun 2020

same as any other time, with special awareness that when judgement is diminished special care needs to be taken. They failed their duty first by getting careless with this man.

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Drunk people frequently show poor judgement. [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 OP

Who even called the cops on him for this? R B Garr Jun 2020 #1

Right? It could have been a Wendy's employee LymphocyteLover Jun 2020 #5

One reason I started the thread asking if cops should have college degrees was because of this JI7 Jun 2020 #2

College doesn't teach you how to deal with this. milestogo Jun 2020 #7

I think it does, to an extent NJCher Jun 2020 #44

How many people are still studying liberal arts curriculum? milestogo Jun 2020 #46

According To This, A Lot ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #50

We don't even know he was drunk yet. Solomon Jun 2020 #3

Exactly, it could have been sheer panic, a fight or flight response Warpy Jun 2020 #4

CNN reported he was given and blew a .10 breath test, over the limit a bit, new body cam video out Baclava Jun 2020 #9

Why would a black man freak out when two police officers try to handcuff him? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #21

It's not like anything has happened recently to a handcuffed by cops black man... Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #23

Plus they didn't inform him that they were about to cuff him. femmedem Jun 2020 #42

Maybe he had a big bag of crack or meth in the trunk, did u check? Baclava Jun 2020 #25

Cops can never be too careful ... StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #27

I mean, he went from calm and peaceful to BOOM, out of control, took them by surprise if u ask me Baclava Jun 2020 #31

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic ... StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #33

Oh, that, yeah I was, but now that u ask...he totally surprised them when he freaked Baclava Jun 2020 #36

Because why would a cop expect an intoxicated person get agitated when they try to cuff him StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #37

I don't know, I don't think like a cop, I would carry a claw hammer and threaten to rip out gonads Baclava Jun 2020 #39

Oh, great - some police recruiter is going to see your post StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #40

I learned all my police tactics from Cartman Baclava Jun 2020 #41

From his perspective, the cops went from calm and peaceful to BOOM, out of control. nt femmedem Jun 2020 #43

Video I saw showed a breath test of .108 which is legally drunk - edited to add video Jersey Devil Jun 2020 #11

Thank you for the report. Yes I was a criminal defense attorney as well and when I saw the video of Solomon Jun 2020 #13

Drunk people do crazy things? Maybe he had underlying anxiety? AllyCat Jun 2020 #15

No question he should not have been shot Jersey Devil Jun 2020 #16

Are those breath tests verifiable? Does the instrument maintain a record? Fla Dem Jun 2020 #22

Questionable whether he "passed" field sobriety tests Jersey Devil Jun 2020 #32

The instruments are field grade. Probable cause to confirm observations. Once arrested jmg257 Jun 2020 #34

"Most people" probably aren't black men in deadly fear of the police StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #24

Maybe we need a "Murdered by Police" hallway in every police department. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #53

My point is that the cop decided he was drunk, and knew what that means Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #17

But it's NEVER EVER proper to shoot someone in the back running away LymphocyteLover Jun 2020 #6

Of course not Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #19

Yes, agree-- the cops were probably just being dicks LymphocyteLover Jun 2020 #51

How do we know he stole a taser? Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #8

He took one of the cops when they were fighting. Ran, turned and fired it, ran jmg257 Jun 2020 #10

You can see it on the vid - it is glowing (nt) Jersey Devil Jun 2020 #12

Well written and of course a good point and good closer. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #14

+1 on the good closer. c-rational Jun 2020 #18

I've blown over before Jarqui Jun 2020 #20

Could have been handled so differently. Move his car from drive thru to stall, put him in back iluvtennis Jun 2020 #26

I thought as you, but my spouse said some states have laws that even if KewlKat Jun 2020 #28

agree with you...call a friend or call him an uber. this is an example of where a non police based iluvtennis Jun 2020 #29

Not a dry eye here...just watched the murder video again... :( KewlKat Jun 2020 #30

If he were a white college student, this would not have ended this way StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #35

THIS n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #45

Without a doubt. dalton99a Jun 2020 #52

Yes, you would have made a good cop. But they're not looking for good cops. Iggo Jun 2020 #49

The video I saw the guys car wasn't blocking anything uponit7771 Jun 2020 #38

So do cops. (n/t) Iggo Jun 2020 #47

Cops have a duty to protect and serve people when drunk, Hortensis Jun 2020 #48