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Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
18. I think it is a little bit of both.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:50 AM
Jun 2020

A lot of them are poor, dumb white guys who haven't spent much time around anyone but other white people. They get told horror stories and believe them because they have no basis for comparison.

A lot are rich, conniving white guys with an agenda who know better and want their cushy little world to stay the way they want it. These are usually the ones telling the poor, dumb ones the horror stories and suggesting they buy more and more guns. And yes, I'm talking about at least The Republican Party and other people too, who are right in there with them doing this stuff, on purpose.

A good read is on the Southern Poverty Law Center's web site. The white supremacist, and I hate to call them that, because there is nothing supreme about them, groups aka hate groups, prey on the poor, dumb white guys and build their self esteem up while simultaneously poisoning their minds. That creates a feedback loop of associating bigotry with power. They want that power like the richer white guys, the leaders of these groups, have. So, they become hardcore and build up these weapons caches. Often, they find themselves running drugs and guns, illegally, of course, for the richer white guys who recruited them. The easiest way to look it up and read it is to read about one of the members of a hate group who turned himself around, married a Palestinian woman, and now travels the country talking about what turned him around. He explains the psychology involved.

There is a definite psychology involved.

Most of the racists are not actually IN hate groups, but they do have contact with them. They are poorer than dirt and the hate groups build up their self esteem, by preying on them, poisoning their minds, getting them to do the dirty work, like hate crimes, bombings, drug and gun running, etc. then let them go to jail for their own crimes. Of course, they should go to jail for their own crimes. They committed them. The people who put them up to those crimes are the first ones to cry "lone wolf" and go on back to their rich, white lives and do it all again. They hardly EVER go to prison. They are actually dangerous too, but they rarely ever go to prison.

It's messed up. I've been reading about this for years and trying to get others involved in learning more about how they do things, and try to think of ways to counteract them, but it involves quite a bit more reading and studying and most people don't normally have time to do it, I guess.

Anywhere you start on the SPLC web site will show you more than you ever knew, especially about just how involved The Republican Party is with the hate groups and just how many people are not actually IN hate groups, but still are in contact with them and doing what the dirty work, so the richer ones in the hate groups can keep right on going without ever going to prison for the crap they do.

So, actually, I think it is a little bit of both. There is a lot of fear from the ones who are not wealthy, don't know anything about other races, but have been told to fear them, but the richer ones, want to keep their cushy lives where they are in power over the vast majority of the population and they want it to stay that way. Look how Tucker Carlson acts. He is a classic example of one of the more mainstream richer ones who tells horror stories based on total lies he also tells. He is not the only one. He is just one that is well known. Most doing this stuff are not as well known. That is how they get by with it.

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"I am a federal officer." BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #1
Why? luv2fly Jun 2020 #3
The dumbass was the man with the gun. bluescribbler Jun 2020 #4
No, I think it was one of the bikers. nt Tipperary Jun 2020 #8
Confusion - Is one of the bikers the dumbass, or one of the bikers the one who said federal officer. Xipe Totec Jun 2020 #19
Why do you think one of the bikers was a dumbass? PTWB Jun 2020 #22
I do not have that opinion. I was pointing that out to the other poster. Tipperary Jun 2020 #36
Oh, that poster said... PTWB Jun 2020 #38
Yeah, I should have been more clear. Tipperary Jun 2020 #39
See post #3 BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #6
Correct IronLionZion Jun 2020 #14
Thank you. Tipperary Jun 2020 #37
My favorite phrase during the initial outbreak was, "I don't know." theaocp Jun 2020 #2
But - but Scarsdale Jun 2020 #5
do you really think it's fear that makes them amass those arsenals? Trueblue Texan Jun 2020 #7
i think it's fear. barbtries Jun 2020 #10
I think it is a little bit of both. Jamastiene Jun 2020 #18
Please consider this as an OP, It is quite good irisblue Jun 2020 #21
I lived in Georgia...and the schools were more intergrated than any of the schools in Wisconsin or Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #33
I think it is fear too. He was shaking in his silly little flip flops. Tipperary Jun 2020 #40
Fear is the underlying cause. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #17
YES !!! They're consummately being told to be afraid for the sake of money uponit7771 Jun 2020 #23
Of COURSE the homeowner is "more dangerous" because Maru Kitteh Jun 2020 #20
The only dangerous person there Scarsdale Jun 2020 #32
Things are bad if anyone in this group looks menacing. The Wielding Truth Jun 2020 #28
oh, another one of those 'responsible' gun owners i keep hearing about. KG Jun 2020 #9
pertecktin heyus homelayund, bigh gawd. a patriot...............eh? jaxexpat Jun 2020 #11
another fine example robleb Jun 2020 #12
The NRA and it's many members went f'in nuts when Obama was elected and bought all the Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #13
Yep, they bought out the ammo in stores, then blamed Obama for the shortage... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #15
or C-19 miraculously just going away....or cutting deals with China at the expense of farmers, or... Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #31
Mostly it was due to a Democratic President with a Democratic Senate and House who promised... aikoaiko Jun 2020 #26
nothing happened though, right? They went nuts at the direction of NRA and a bunch of conspiracy Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #30
Yes and no. After Sandy Hook, Obama initiated the largest effort to restict guns since 1968. aikoaiko Jun 2020 #35
Had they all been slaughtered in cold blood, what would the authorities have called it? ffr Jun 2020 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2020 #24
Which rules? What announcement? B_Mann Jun 2020 #27
Go to jail, asshole. aikoaiko Jun 2020 #25
You know what's going to happen jmowreader Jun 2020 #29
good lock his un-American *** up rockfordfile Jun 2020 #34
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